NATCA Going Down in Flames

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


In what tower did you see controllers wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


In what tower did you see controllers wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


I saw it at BMI about four years ago.

"Emily" wrote in message
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I saw it at BMI about four years ago.


I've never seen it. I don't think it was a problem. But if it had been,
the FAA could simply have banned cut-offs and flip-flops.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


In what tower did you see controllers wearing flip-flops and cut-off
shorts?

I've been in three towers, two TRACONs and a Center, and I've never seen
controllers wearing flip-flops or cut-off shorts. Jeans and T-shirts, yes.

The FAA is out to make a point with this about who's got the power, IMO.
It's got nothing to do with encouraging professionalism among controllers.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

I've been in three towers, two TRACONs and a Center, and I've never seen
controllers wearing flip-flops or cut-off shorts. Jeans and T-shirts,
yes.


I've been an FPL controller in an ARTCC and a tower/TRACON and have visited
probably a dozen other ATC facilities and never seen a controller dressed
like that.

"Dan Luke" wrote

The FAA is out to make a point with this about who's got the power, IMO.
It's got nothing to do with encouraging professionalism among controllers.

B I N G O !!!
--
Jim in NC

The FAA is out to make a point with this about who's got the power, IMO.
It's got nothing to do with encouraging professionalism among controllers.

bingo.

Jose
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In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:
When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?

It says that dressing like a drone is so 1950s?
--
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"Why don't you mind your own business?" -- John Navas 01/04/05
"If you don't like it, keep it to yourself" -- John Navas 01/04/05

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

[snip]
These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and
us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight
about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see
ATC privatization.

Who cares what they wear? How about expecting the FAA "leaders" spend
effort and time on things that matter? Controllers have very little
interaction
with "customers" expect via land-line or radio. Does the controller's
attire
matter even a little?

Jay, you did label it correctly. It IS a ridiculous issue.

Not only ridiculous, it could actually be a dangerous issue. ANY issue like
this that is designed by its creators to deliberately cause tension between
controllers and supervisors while on duty is a potential danger to flights
in progress.

Slightly off topic but with a real stretch slight relevant here is what
follows;

The very idea of a government union is bad on its premise. On one hand you
have government employees screaming for money. On the other hand you have
politicians wanting the union's vote to stay in office. In the middle you
have the taxpayer who has to pay the bill when these two completely
unethical factors finish putting on their show for the public and do what
they were always going to do anyway; screw the taxpayer.
We are well advised to remember the Boston Tea Party, where everybody was
screaming,
"No taxation without representation". Well we wanted it. We got it. Now we
have taxation WITH representation :-)

Dudley Henriques

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...

Who cares what they wear? How about expecting the FAA "leaders" spend
effort and time on things that matter? Controllers have very little
interaction
with "customers" expect via land-line or radio. Does the controller's
attire
matter even a little?


Sometimes I work naked.