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PPL/CPL test questions
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I've been reading here for a long time, but now I have a question for myself that I want to ask. I'm from Germany. Last year I have been in the US to begin working on my PPL. My goal is to get PPL then CPL. I have flown a lot of hours (over 70hrs), but since I had to return earlier than expected I couldn't do the checkride any more (but I finished the written with flying collors). This year I had no time to return, so I have to defer that to next year. My plan is to finish PPL and after that go for CPL directly (I'll have more than 100hrs at that time). The written I took in the US of course is already expired (more than 12 month since I took it), so I have to redo it. I now found out that there are places here in Germany where I can take the written exam for US pilot certificates. So before leaving to the US again I can finish my written here in Germany, and can concentrate on flying in the US. I'm currently studying/refreshing CPL knowledge, and because I want to go to CPL directly after the PPL checkride I wonder if I can take both PPL and CPL written here in Germany before I leave. I know You must have the PPL certificate before You can get the CPL, but what I want to know is: can I do the written exam for CPL even when at that time I don't have a PPL certificate? If I can, I could do both PPL and CPL written exams here in Germany, and after that can concentrate on flying and the PPL and later CPL checkride. Is that possible? Regards Joe |
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John D. Abrahms wrote:
.............what I want to know is: can I do the written exam for CPL even when at that time I don't have a PPL certificate? If I can, I could do both PPL and CPL written exams here in Germany, and after that can concentrate on flying and the PPL and later CPL checkride. Is that possible? Technically I suppose you could. You'll need a CFI to sign off on the application for the commercial written exam. The passing test results are good for 2 years. |
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John D. Abrahms wrote: Hi all! I've been reading here for a long time, but now I have a question for myself that I want to ask. Yes, you can be signed off for both at the same time. The normal route here in the U.S. though is private-instrument-commercial. It is actually a bit odd (maybe 10% of pilot) to have a commercial w/o an instrument in the U.S. I know the instrument may be of different value in the E.U. though. The private and commercial are 75% the same so you should be able to get the CFI who does your private to sign off your commercial. If you use King schools or the like, you can do it over the phone and they'll fax you the auth for both (if you buy both courses). -Robert, CFI |
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John D. Abrahms wrote: Hi all! I've been reading here for a long time, but now I have a question for myself that I want to ask. Yes, you can be signed off for both at the same time. The normal route here in the U.S. though is private-instrument-commercial. It is actually a bit odd (maybe 10% of pilot) to have a commercial w/o an instrument in the U.S. I know the instrument may be of different value in the E.U. though. The private and commercial are 75% the same so you should be able to get the CFI who does your private to sign off your commercial. If you use King schools or the like, you can do it over the phone and they'll fax you the auth for both (if you buy both courses). -Robert, CFI |
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Thanks to all of You for your answer. That sounds good...
Of course I also want to have CPL with instrument, but the most important ones are PPL and CPL. So I suspect I could do all three writtens (PPL, CPL, IFR) in advance and do flying later when I'm back in the US. Sounds great, and leaves me plenty of time to be prepared for the writtens. Thanks again! Joe |
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One of the main reasons that the CPL without an instrument is rare is
because the CPL required 250 hrs total time. Most pilots get there PPL in less than 100 hours so that leaves 150 hour of flying. You need 50 hour x-country for the IR Plus about 50 hours of Instrument training to get the IR, so many pilots opt to work on the IR Rating to the build time need to get the the CPL Rating. and you still have 50 hours or more to just fly or prepare for the CPL test. You will learn a lot more during that 50 hours of instrument training that you ever will just fly 50 hours to build time, and you will have the IR when you done. Brian CFIIG/ASEL |
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when exactly did you do the private written because it is good for two years
not 12 months. "John D. Abrahms" wrote in message om... Hi all! I've been reading here for a long time, but now I have a question for myself that I want to ask. I'm from Germany. Last year I have been in the US to begin working on my PPL. My goal is to get PPL then CPL. I have flown a lot of hours (over 70hrs), but since I had to return earlier than expected I couldn't do the checkride any more (but I finished the written with flying collors). This year I had no time to return, so I have to defer that to next year. My plan is to finish PPL and after that go for CPL directly (I'll have more than 100hrs at that time). The written I took in the US of course is already expired (more than 12 month since I took it), so I have to redo it. I now found out that there are places here in Germany where I can take the written exam for US pilot certificates. So before leaving to the US again I can finish my written here in Germany, and can concentrate on flying in the US. I'm currently studying/refreshing CPL knowledge, and because I want to go to CPL directly after the PPL checkride I wonder if I can take both PPL and CPL written here in Germany before I leave. I know You must have the PPL certificate before You can get the CPL, but what I want to know is: can I do the written exam for CPL even when at that time I don't have a PPL certificate? If I can, I could do both PPL and CPL written exams here in Germany, and after that can concentrate on flying and the PPL and later CPL checkride. Is that possible? Regards Joe |
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Brian wrote: One of the main reasons that the CPL without an instrument is rare is because the CPL required 250 hrs total time. THE reason why is that commercial pilots without an instrument rating are limited in the type of flying they can do for pay. George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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