Cirrus Killer? Cessna just doesn't get it...

Reading Avwebs latest addition (avweb.com) I'm reading all about how
Cessna is developing (very hush hush) their "cirrus killer", new high
performance 4 place single. They are being very hush hush about the
whole thing, except for one point; the new design will be a high
wing....

Without debating the idea of high wing vs low wing as far as flying
advantages, the "perception" (right or wrong)of the high wing is a lower
& slower plane . When have you seen a jet fighter with a high wing??

To the public at large, a low wing plane is just a sexier, faster
"look" to it. I predict for that reason alone, the new "Cirrus Killer"
Cessna will fail, not because it won't be a superior airplane, it
probably will be, by the mere fact that it is designed to be, but
because it will not "look" sexy enough with the high wing... no matter
how well it performs, it will still have at its heart, the look of a
150/172.....

When I spend 350grand I want people to look at my plane and say ohhhh,
ahhhh, not just pilots either…. A high wing will design will not make me
feel like Maverick on "Top Gun"… (Tell me honestly you don't see almost
every Cirrus buyer playing "highway to the danger zone" mentally in his
head at some point while flying his new Cirrus…heh)

And if it doesnt have the BRS or GRS or equivelent, it will also fail.
Many pilots wives are much less nervous about flying with a BRS
installed (again, right or wrong, what is important in this level of the
market is perception... if it was all about money, they would all be
buying 20 year old 180's..)

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-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Well, high wing and shoulder wings come to mind...
AV8 Harrier
FA18
F14 Tomcat
B52
FA22

Probably more but I'm not a military type... Let others chime in...

The $350K Cirrus driver on our field sold it, and his brand new hangar,
after he wrecked the plane - twice... Dunno what was playing in his
head at the time, but it should have been the theme from Get Smart...

denny

I will take being able to stand up out of the weather under the
protection of the high wing any day over trying to hold an umbrella
while loading pax and baggage.

john smith wrote:

I will take being able to stand up out of the weather under the
protection of the high wing any day over trying to hold an umbrella
while loading pax and baggage.

Not to mention stepping up onto the wing to enter the cabin. I have been
flying more Angel Flight patients lately who are having a problem with
this.

--
Peter
(a low wing aircraft owner)

















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In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

john smith wrote:

I will take being able to stand up out of the weather under the
protection of the high wing any day over trying to hold an umbrella
while loading pax and baggage.

Not to mention stepping up onto the wing to enter the cabin. I have been
flying more Angel Flight patients lately who are having a problem with
this.

That is where the Cherokee Six/Saratoga are the most practical.
The rear doors are low enough to allow the pax to set their butts down
on the lower door sill and slide/turn into the cabin.

john smith wrote:

I will take being able to stand up out of the weather under the
protection of the high wing any day over trying to hold an umbrella
while loading pax and baggage.

You mean like this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80638909QTqtNi

Stefan

Stefan wrote:

You mean like this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80638909QTqtNi

Here, kitty kitty kitty.

- Andrew

Stefan wrote:

You mean like this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80638909QTqtNi

Just remember that it's the co-pilot's job to do the preflight. :-)

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

"Stefan" wrote in message
...
john smith wrote:

I will take being able to stand up out of the weather under the
protection of the high wing any day over trying to hold an umbrella while
loading pax and baggage.

You mean like this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80638909QTqtNi



Attention passenger of Blue Sky Flight 999. There will be a slight delay
before boarding.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Attention passenger of Blue Sky Flight 999. There will be a slight delay
before boarding.

I forwarded this to a friend, and he didn't see "preflight". He saw kitties
lining up for a buffet immediately following a landing.

- Andrew