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Old April 21st 06, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Martin Hotze wrote:
imagine: there is only one earth you (we) have *together*. So there is no
second earth we can jump on if we have brought down everything; it might
take 100 or 300 years or longer .. but almost everything on our earth is
finite.


So is _everything_ in the universe my friend. The sun will burn out
in a few million years too then we'll all die so lets just do nothing.
Let the rest of the world develop their resourses while we just sit
here and pay them money. Hell.. in about 50 years Mexico will figure
out a way to suck all of the oil out of the gulf right under our noses.
(One of the reasons Sadam attacked Kuwait was because he believed they
were horizontally drilling into his oil fields... never disproven.)

Doing nothing and hoping all the bad stuff and people will just go
away is a losing strategy.
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Old April 21st 06, 09:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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That "410,000" should be "$10,000".

JEEEESUS, Doug, I thought you were flying a B-737 biz jet for a minute
there!

:-)
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Old April 21st 06, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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hmm, there was no war for oil. it was for rescuing all those people from
terror and saving them from the terrorists. and getting rid of Hussein.


Dang, I wish the war really *was* for oil.

Then we all wouldn't be paying these ridiculous energy bills to a bunch
of, er, "unfriendly indigenous peoples."
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Old April 21st 06, 11:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On 21 Apr 2006 14:02:09 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
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hmm, there was no war for oil. it was for rescuing all those people from
terror and saving them from the terrorists. and getting rid of Hussein.


Dang, I wish the war really *was* for oil.

Then we all wouldn't be paying these ridiculous energy bills to a bunch
of, er, "unfriendly indigenous peoples."


Call me a raging conspiricist, but I thought Afghanistan and Iraq were
object lessons for the ruling classes in neighboring states to show
them how easily we could transform stable despotism into rampaging
anarchy if they ticked us off.

As for it being "for oil," if you're a speculator or a big holder in
an oil company . . . . Cui bono?

Don
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Old April 21st 06, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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("M" wrote)
100LL will hit $5/gallon average sometime the next 3 years, guaranteed.



....next 3 months might be closer.


Montblack
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Old April 21st 06, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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well, by average I meant day-in/day-out, dead in the winter time, gulf
states, whatever. 100LL will certainly reach $5/gallon this summer in
many locations, but it'll retreat back as the summer passes.

In 3 years however, $5/gallon 100LL will absolutely become the norm
everywhere. Autogas STC folks (like me) will be salivating the fact
that our autogas is *only* $4/gallon.

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Old April 22nd 06, 01:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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100LL will hit $5/gallon average sometime the next 3 years, guaranteed.

...next 3 months might be closer.


It just hit $4.25 per gallon here in Iowa City.

That makes filling up the Mighty Grape (at $2.87 per gallon) with mogas
seem positively cheap. (Although it's now over $150 to fill even the
Grape!)

:-(
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Old April 22nd 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:
There is no limit really. Name something else you can put in a tank and
burn that is less expensive. Alchohol? Biodiesel? Electric? Right now,
all of those are more. There is a pretty good chance it will go back
down, SOME. But I doubt we will ever see it under $2 again.


That's what they were saying in the 70's during the oil embargo... It will
come down.


And in 1981 onward, IT DID!



Unfortunately, we currently have a president and congress who are about
as wimpy as they can get on domestic policy. Often, they're even
worse--acting much like the liberals they campaign against.

The United States likely has enough undiscovered oil to be the world's
largest oil producer by a wide margin (we are already the third-largest
exporter of crude oil), but we CHOOSE not to tap into that natural
resource. Or, rather, we let the environmentalist wackos and their junk
science make that choice for us.

There is a limit to price, and that limit is where demand starts to
fall. Right now, Americans may not be happy with $3-$4/gallon gas, but
they're willing to pay for it, so there's really no incentive for lower
prices. However, there is plenty of opportunity for politicians to
latch on to the issue of high energy prices to promote agendas that
would meddle with the market and create artificially high prices and
true hardships for Americans; such is already evident in today's high
prices. Consumers can control market price, but they can't control
government mandate.


JKG
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Old April 22nd 06, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"M" wrote in message
ups.com...

Matt Barrow wrote:
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Even now, our defense budget, as a percent of federal expenditures, is
lower
than even during the Carter yearsm, and much less than in the 1950's.


The cost of Iraq war isn't included in the defense budget.


BS.


Do you honestly believe we need the size of the military we have right
now if we don't have a need for an oversea energy supply?


Pretty much.


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Old April 22nd 06, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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hmm, there was no war for oil. it was for rescuing all those people from
terror and saving them from the terrorists. and getting rid of Hussein.


Dang, I wish the war really *was* for oil.

Yes, that's why we went into Afghanistan and took all their oil, then kept
all the oil we looted from Iraq that was already pumping at high output...





 




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