Avgas Where is the ceiling?

Well, I sure hope you're sending your children to the war so I can keep
filling my airplane with cheap gas. Honestly speaking, I have no
problem with this deal at all.

we need to account about 1/3 to 1/2 of our military budget and
consider that a fuel tax

For Europe too. If the U.S. did not subsidize the national defense of
Europe they'd have to pay for it themselves. Imagine the German's
having to take over all those bases in Germany.

-Robert

hmm, there was no war for oil. it was for rescuing all those people from
terror and saving them from the terrorists. and getting rid of Hussein.

Obviously. If the war was for oil, don't you think we'd have taken some
by now?

-Robert

On 20-Apr-2006, "Doug" wrote:

There is no limit really. Name something else you can put in a tank and
burn that is less expensive. Alchohol? Biodiesel? Electric? Right now,
all of those are more. There is a pretty good chance it will go back
down, SOME. But I doubt we will ever see it under $2 again.


I doubt it, too. BUT, there are practical limits to prices for crude oil
and the distillates derived from it. One is the cost of producing
alternative sources of energy. If, instead of wasting hundreds of billions
of dollars in Iraq, we spent those sums on alternative energy R&D I am
convinced the US would gain energy independence within a decade.

The unique needs of aviation will continue to require high grade liquid
fuels (i.e. gasoline or kerosene). But many other applications, including
ground transportation, could be met with such alternatives as hydrogen fuel
or ethanol. That would dramatically reduce demand for oil and bring
gasoline and kerosene prices down. Of course, such a situation will also go
a long ways toward averting a global warming catastrophe.

-Elliott Drucker

They told us the war was for weapons of mass distruction. Then they
said, Saddam (or implied it). Not sure what the reason is now.
Momentum? Can't pull out because we would look bad. Fighting the bad
guys. Something like that.

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:19:14 GMT, Don Tuite wrote:

Call me a raging conspiricist, but I thought Afghanistan and Iraq were
object lessons for the ruling classes in neighboring states to show
them how easily we could transform stable despotism into rampaging
anarchy if they ticked us off.


ah. that's why the Emirates have payed the US their losses for Iraq Part I
.... I see. don't take yourself too important.

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On 21 Apr 2006 22:48:08 -0700, Doug wrote:

They told us the war was for weapons of mass distruction. Then they
said, Saddam (or implied it). Not sure what the reason is now.
Momentum? Can't pull out because we would look bad. Fighting the bad
guys. Something like that.

lokk at history: what has almost every leader done when there where
problems within the country? he started a war.

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:34:09 -0700, Matt Barrow wrote:

Do you honestly believe we need the size of the military we have right
now if we don't have a need for an oversea energy supply?

Pretty much.


what for? serious. what for?

nobody on this single planet is stupid enough to spend that much money for
.... aaahhh ... what for? for destroying this single planet? glad we have
you, you'll take care of _everything_.

#m
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On 21 Apr 2006 21:52:28 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:

For Europe too. If the U.S. did not subsidize the national defense of
Europe they'd have to pay for it themselves.

I doubt that we here would raise much more money than we do right now for
national defense.

Imagine the German's
having to take over all those bases in Germany.

you mean cleaning up the environmental mess?
or taking over the bases where you spy on your allies (!!)?
or closing the airports where you train the low flights close to populated
areas?
or bringing away the nukes you have here (without permission AFAIK)?

-Robert

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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

lokk at history: what has almost every leader done when there where
problems within the country? he started a war.

Yes, let's look at history and try to learn from it.
What's the best place to fight a war?

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