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"Dan Luke" wrote: Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced. At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is dead forever. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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"NW_Pilot" wrote:
All this was beacuse from my Lebanon trip. They keep telling me they don't have to let me back in to the U.S. the country I was born! Heh. I suspect that eventually Canada (or whatever country you were returning from) might put you on a plane headed back to the U.S. and deny you reentry to their country for overstaying your visit! I don't know much about it or whether your previous ferry trips have already tainted any background checks they perform on you, but maybe applying to one of the "Trusted Traveler" programs would reduce future contact with low-I.Q. goons: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/ |
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Matt Whiting wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122 @news1.epix.net: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: C J Campbell wrote in news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is anti-war extremists. People who are anti war are extremeists? That isn't even close to what he wrote. I cut and paste it... So it's exactly what he wrote. Bertie He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge difference. Has he no tongue? Bertie |
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"Bob Noel" wrote: Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced. At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is dead forever. Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes. -- Dan T-182T at BFM |
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("Dan Luke" wrote)
Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes. More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views this as an acceptable loss. I would like to see a couple of things: 1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict. 2. An understanding that society has needs, too. Montblack |
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"Dan Luke" wrote: Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced. At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is dead forever. Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes. It is the probably the primary reason why I oppose CP. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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"Montblack" wrote:
[ Comparing capital punishment to driving deaths. ] More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views this as an acceptable loss. Sigh. You're comparing an activity where an individual makes their _own_ decision of risk-vs-reward affecting _themselves_ (deciding whether to drive or ride in a motor vehicle) versus an activity (capital punishment) wherein _others_ decide an accused's fate. Most people presume the context affects the moral and legal prerequisites, so the activities aren't comparable. Just because people die from capital punishment and from driving hardly makes them morally comparable. I would like to see a couple of things: 1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict. Some jurisdictions already allow several dissents in the case of civil trials. 2. An understanding that society has needs, too. So you're a socialist? |
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Recently, Montblack posted:
("Dan Luke" wrote) Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes. More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views this as an acceptable loss. There is no correlation between being killed during a self-elected activity and being put to death by erroneous and/or malicious prosecution. I would like to see a couple of things: 1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict. 2. An understanding that society has needs, too. Have you ever served on a jury? I have, and frankly think that this is a ludicrous suggestion. Neil |
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message ... Recently, Montblack posted: ("Dan Luke" wrote) Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes. More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views this as an acceptable loss. There is no correlation between being killed during a self-elected activity and being put to death by erroneous and/or malicious prosecution. I would like to see a couple of things: 1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict. 2. An understanding that society has needs, too. Have you ever served on a jury? I have, and frankly think that this is a ludicrous suggestion. If he had he would have seen the number of morons who end up on juries. People make mistakes. |
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On 2007-10-20 17:15:05 -0600, "Dan Luke" said:
"C J Campbell" wrote: The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is anti-war extremists. I never knew that John McCain was an anti-war extremist. You learn the darndest things on Usenet! I forgot about that bigoted imbecile. Hmm. I have several political differences with McCain; I might even go as far as "fool" WRT the war in Iraq. But "bigoted imbecile?" That's pretty strong. McCain made some pretty ignorant remarks in an interview on belief.net. Asked if he thought that Romney or a Muslim could be President, he managed to offend all the non-Christians by stating that America was a 'Christian' country, ignoring the Constitutional provision against a state religion. He also managed to offend more than 12 million Mormons, who are Christians despite the ranting of a few over-the-top evangelists who have appointed themselves the privilege of deciding who is a Christian and who is not. Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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