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  #31  
Old August 25th 09, 10:53 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Michael[_8_]
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"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:43:15 -0400, the Legend of LAX wrote
(in article ):

Actually, Thunderbird does do yEnc. Unfortunately, it only does files
that are properly formatted. I can usually see about half of all yEnc
posts.



hielan' laddie wrote:

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird.




I stand corrected. That means that it's only MSOE that has the problem.

There is no problem with MSOE if you download OeyEnc Loader plugin from:
http://www.mutexed.com/code/OeyEnc/ either.
I've been using it for at least 3 years with absolutely no problem and 100%
success. Once you have installed it, you don't even know that it is there.
It's amazing how many of the detractors state that they refuse to download
anything from the web because of dangers, install any software that isn't on
MSOE or change anything on their computer from the original setup. Do they
ever run MS update (or even know what it is), run an antivirus and firewall
or anti-malware program. I wonder who they blame when their machine starts
doing strange things because its been hacked.
But the ones that make me laugh are the ones that can't see yEnc posts,
refuse to do anything about it but go on and on and on and on about it. It's
like a Monty Python argument sketch. I wonder what sort of aircraft these
people would fly? One with twisty wings made in 1904 I guess.
Or are they just Trolls?

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  #32  
Old August 25th 09, 11:16 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
The Raven[_2_]
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"Michael" wrote in message
. ..

"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:43:15 -0400, the Legend of LAX wrote
(in article ):

Actually, Thunderbird does do yEnc. Unfortunately, it only does files
that are properly formatted. I can usually see about half of all yEnc
posts.



hielan' laddie wrote:

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird.



I stand corrected. That means that it's only MSOE that has the problem.

There is no problem with MSOE if you download OeyEnc Loader plugin from:
http://www.mutexed.com/code/OeyEnc/ either.
I've been using it for at least 3 years with absolutely no problem and
100% success. Once you have installed it, you don't even know that it is
there.
It's amazing how many of the detractors state that they refuse to download
anything from the web because of dangers, install any software that isn't
on MSOE or change anything on their computer from the original setup. Do
they ever run MS update (or even know what it is), run an antivirus and
firewall or anti-malware program. I wonder who they blame when their
machine starts doing strange things because its been hacked.
But the ones that make me laugh are the ones that can't see yEnc posts,
refuse to do anything about it but go on and on and on and on about it.
It's like a Monty Python argument sketch. I wonder what sort of aircraft
these people would fly? One with twisty wings made in 1904 I guess.
Or are they just Trolls?

Michael


I'm using this and it works................BUT........only when all the
multi-part messages are available. For some reason yEnc posters love big
pics and small multi-part messages, end result is that enough parts always
go missing as to make the whole exercise a huge waste of time.


  #33  
Old August 25th 09, 11:44 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Jacques[_2_]
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Default yenc

Looks like I started a YENc WAR here. I apologize! So stop it now, please!
This could turn out to be a day time soap opera with all it's drama and
stuff.

Please do not turn it into "As the Stomach Turns"

Jacques

  #34  
Old August 25th 09, 12:59 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
hielan' laddie
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:28:11 -0400, Dave D wrote
(in article ):


"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:50:40 -0400, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article ):

"John Crawford" wrote in
:

Yenc is suppose to save band width. No on my computer, all it does
is
flood it with useless unreadable
garbage.



Yenc might make sense when posting songs or video
clips but when it comes to simple images I have never
seen a reason to depart from the jpeg format that
everyone can read and is comfortable with.


One more time:

Every single binary posted on USENET is encoded using some method or
another.
If you post a .JPG, you are posting it using some encoding system, MIME,
or
UUNET, or yENC or something else. You cannot just post a .JPG, USENET is a
text-only medium and binaries must be encoded so that they look like text
or
they will not show up on USENET. You choose to encode using UUNET or MIME,
depending on the default setting of your NNTP client; almost all NNTP
clients
decode MIME and UUNET and yENC. Some just decode MIME or UUNET. Some still
don't decode any of those formats at all and must rely on 'helper apps' to
decode binaries. (And to encode them for upload) When I first started
reading
USENET, my NNTP client at the time did not decode binaries of any format;
I
had to use a helper app.

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE and
Thunderbird. MSOE users, in particular, insist that others not use yENC
because their client won't read it. I tell 'em to kiss my ass. If you want
to
see _all_ the pics, use a client which will decode them, or get a helper
app
which will do it for you. If you insist on doing neither, that is _your
choice_. You don't get to see certain pix. Like it or lump it.


I always figgured that those who insist on using yENC for pics were kinda
like those who put spoilers on the rear of their cars that won't go fast
enough to be of any value. Simply put for show, looks, and status....

DaveD




I have limited bandwidth. I see no reason to waste it unnecessarily catering
to luddites. yENC cuts the overhead by a considerable amount. In addition, my
outgoing connection is slow. Not using yENC means that I would take longer to
post. I would prefer to cut down on the time, not to increase it. Faster
connections are not available at my location, even if I were willing to pay
more for the connivence of luddites, which I'm not. Nor am I willing to move
to a location where I can get faster connections just so luddites can avoid
using an efficient method. I configure my system to suit my needs. If my
needs do not correspond to your needs, then by all means apply your killfile.
Do it now. Don't wait, as I am _not_ going to change.

  #35  
Old August 25th 09, 01:02 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Michael[_8_]
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Posts: 21
Default yenc


"Jacques" wrote in message
...
Looks like I started a YENc WAR here. I apologize! So stop it now,
please! This could turn out to be a day time soap opera with all it's
drama and stuff.

Please do not turn it into "As the Stomach Turns"

Jacques


Did you start the yEnc war? You must be a troll then......:-)
No war buddy, just some education needed to those who don't understand how
Usenet works.
But a word of advice, If you don't want it discussed, keep your fingers off
the keyboard.

Michael





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  #36  
Old August 25th 09, 01:40 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Don Pyeatt
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Posts: 378
Default yenc


"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:43:15 -0400, the Legend of LAX wrote
(in article ):

Actually, Thunderbird does do yEnc. Unfortunately, it only does files
that are properly formatted. I can usually see about half of all yEnc
posts.



hielan' laddie wrote:

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird.




I stand corrected. That means that it's only MSOE that has the problem.




What problem?


  #37  
Old August 25th 09, 01:44 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Don Pyeatt
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Posts: 378
Default yenc


"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:28:11 -0400, Dave D wrote
(in article ):


"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:50:40 -0400, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article ):

"John Crawford" wrote in
:

Yenc is suppose to save band width. No on my computer, all it does
is
flood it with useless unreadable
garbage.



Yenc might make sense when posting songs or video
clips but when it comes to simple images I have never
seen a reason to depart from the jpeg format that
everyone can read and is comfortable with.


One more time:

Every single binary posted on USENET is encoded using some method or
another.
If you post a .JPG, you are posting it using some encoding system, MIME,
or
UUNET, or yENC or something else. You cannot just post a .JPG, USENET is
a
text-only medium and binaries must be encoded so that they look like
text
or
they will not show up on USENET. You choose to encode using UUNET or
MIME,
depending on the default setting of your NNTP client; almost all NNTP
clients
decode MIME and UUNET and yENC. Some just decode MIME or UUNET. Some
still
don't decode any of those formats at all and must rely on 'helper apps'
to
decode binaries. (And to encode them for upload) When I first started
reading
USENET, my NNTP client at the time did not decode binaries of any
format;
I
had to use a helper app.

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird. MSOE users, in particular, insist that others not use yENC
because their client won't read it. I tell 'em to kiss my ass. If you
want
to
see _all_ the pics, use a client which will decode them, or get a helper
app
which will do it for you. If you insist on doing neither, that is _your
choice_. You don't get to see certain pix. Like it or lump it.


I always figgured that those who insist on using yENC for pics were kinda
like those who put spoilers on the rear of their cars that won't go fast
enough to be of any value. Simply put for show, looks, and status....

DaveD




I have limited bandwidth. I see no reason to waste it unnecessarily
catering
to luddites. yENC cuts the overhead by a considerable amount. In addition,
my
outgoing connection is slow. Not using yENC means that I would take longer
to
post. I would prefer to cut down on the time, not to increase it. Faster
connections are not available at my location, even if I were willing to
pay
more for the connivence of luddites, which I'm not. Nor am I willing to
move
to a location where I can get faster connections just so luddites can
avoid
using an efficient method. I configure my system to suit my needs. If my
needs do not correspond to your needs, then by all means apply your
killfile.
Do it now. Don't wait, as I am _not_ going to change.



I considered KF'ing you long ago but have not since you are the best
entertainment this group has ever had.



  #38  
Old August 25th 09, 01:53 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Gary R. Schmidt
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Posts: 36
Default yenc

hielan' laddie wrote:
[SNIP]
The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE and
Thunderbird.

T'bird will handle *single* yEnc posts, but as multi-part yEnc posts
*are not formatted according the Usenet RFCs in regard to posting
format* it cannot handle them.

If the bloke who came up with yEnc had *not* been raised in the mould of
Microsoft and the "I'll do it *my* way, stuff any existing standards"
attitude they engage in, _none of these discussions would occur_.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

P.S. I am all in favour of reducing bandwidth requirements, but anyone
who can count beyond ten without taking their shoes off should realise
that a single post with 50Kb of encoded data uses less bandwidth than
five posts each with 10Kb of encoded data and associated glue.
  #39  
Old August 25th 09, 01:54 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Michael[_8_]
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Default yenc


"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...

"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:43:15 -0400, the Legend of LAX wrote
(in article ):

Actually, Thunderbird does do yEnc. Unfortunately, it only does files
that are properly formatted. I can usually see about half of all yEnc
posts.



hielan' laddie wrote:

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird.



I stand corrected. That means that it's only MSOE that has the problem.




What problem?

The problem that MSOE doesn't decode yEnc without a helper.
Why what did you think he meant?

Michael





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  #40  
Old August 25th 09, 02:07 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Michael[_8_]
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Default yenc


"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...

"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:28:11 -0400, Dave D wrote
(in article ):


"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:50:40 -0400, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article ):

"John Crawford" wrote in
:

Yenc is suppose to save band width. No on my computer, all it does
is
flood it with useless unreadable
garbage.



Yenc might make sense when posting songs or video
clips but when it comes to simple images I have never
seen a reason to depart from the jpeg format that
everyone can read and is comfortable with.


One more time:

Every single binary posted on USENET is encoded using some method or
another.
If you post a .JPG, you are posting it using some encoding system,
MIME,
or
UUNET, or yENC or something else. You cannot just post a .JPG, USENET
is a
text-only medium and binaries must be encoded so that they look like
text
or
they will not show up on USENET. You choose to encode using UUNET or
MIME,
depending on the default setting of your NNTP client; almost all NNTP
clients
decode MIME and UUNET and yENC. Some just decode MIME or UUNET. Some
still
don't decode any of those formats at all and must rely on 'helper apps'
to
decode binaries. (And to encode them for upload) When I first started
reading
USENET, my NNTP client at the time did not decode binaries of any
format;
I
had to use a helper app.

The two most prominent NNTP clients which do not decode yENC are MSOE
and
Thunderbird. MSOE users, in particular, insist that others not use yENC
because their client won't read it. I tell 'em to kiss my ass. If you
want
to
see _all_ the pics, use a client which will decode them, or get a
helper
app
which will do it for you. If you insist on doing neither, that is _your
choice_. You don't get to see certain pix. Like it or lump it.

I always figgured that those who insist on using yENC for pics were
kinda
like those who put spoilers on the rear of their cars that won't go fast
enough to be of any value. Simply put for show, looks, and status....

DaveD




I have limited bandwidth. I see no reason to waste it unnecessarily
catering
to luddites. yENC cuts the overhead by a considerable amount. In
addition, my
outgoing connection is slow. Not using yENC means that I would take
longer to
post. I would prefer to cut down on the time, not to increase it. Faster
connections are not available at my location, even if I were willing to
pay
more for the connivence of luddites, which I'm not. Nor am I willing to
move
to a location where I can get faster connections just so luddites can
avoid
using an efficient method. I configure my system to suit my needs. If my
needs do not correspond to your needs, then by all means apply your
killfile.
Do it now. Don't wait, as I am _not_ going to change.



I considered KF'ing you long ago but have not since you are the best
entertainment this group has ever had.



You need to get away from your computer more often :-)

Michael





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