Is the 787 a failure ?

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:
And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the
perception of the 787 becoming that of a flaming
deathtrap.

Who has died aboard a 787?

Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall
and fall out of the sky without informing its crew?
jsw


Not that I know of. The newest plane I've flown on was a 727. The
other was a DC10. I flew to Alaska & back from Ohio in the '70s and
have never needed to go anywhere by plane since.

On 1/29/2013 7:04 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:
And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the
perception of the 787 becoming that of a flaming
deathtrap.

Who has died aboard a 787?

Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall
and fall out of the sky without informing its crew?
jsw


Not that I know of. The newest plane I've flown on was a 727. The
other was a DC10. I flew to Alaska & back from Ohio in the '70s and
have never needed to go anywhere by plane since.

You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the
world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your
shack.

"Max Boot" wrote in message
.. .
On 1/29/2013 7:04 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to
stall
and fall out of the sky without informing its crew?
jsw


You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in
the world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride
from your shack.

http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/flig...t.final.en.php
CVR 2h 11m 43.0
"qu'est-ce qui se passe ? je ne sais pas je sais pas ce qui se passe"
"on a tout perdu le contrôle de l'avion on comprend rien on a tout
tenté"

It doesn't take much to bring out the angry frustrated child in you.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:58:11 -0800, Delvin Benet wrote:

On 1/28/2013 8:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:28:36 -0800, Delvin Benet ýt wrote:

On 1/28/2013 7:03 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:

And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the perception of
the 787 becoming that of a flaming deathtrap.


Who has died aboard a 787?

No one.

How many people are afraid they might have died in one if they hadn't
been ordered out of service?


More people die on american roads in one year than have died in
aircraft accidents in 50 years.
Every year 47 Americans die on the road for every one who dies in the
air or coming out of it. Yet people get into cars and busses every day.

Sure, but considering only safety, would you rather drive a Nissan 350Z
with 143 driver fatalities per million registered vehicle years, or a
BMW 7 series with only 11 fatalities per million?
http://www.statisticbrain.com/driver...-by-auto-make/

Is the problem the CAR ... or the kind of people
who buy it and how they DRIVE it ? :-)

I can put a conservative old fart on a kick-ass
Ninja rice-rocket and he can ride it a million
miles without so much as a ticket or dent. Hand
the same bike to some testosterone-overdosed
punk and he'd be lucky to make it to the corner
store without leaving a deep imprint in the
side of an SUV.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:13:58 -0800, Max Boot wrote:

On 1/29/2013 7:04 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:
And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the perception of
the 787 becoming that of a flaming deathtrap.

Who has died aboard a 787?

Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall
and fall out of the sky without informing its crew? jsw


Not that I know of. The newest plane I've flown on was a 727. The
other was a DC10. I flew to Alaska & back from Ohio in the '70s and
have never needed to go anywhere by plane since.

You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the
world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your
shack.

Though, oddly, those cosmopolitan euros will flock
over on their tourist bus to take a million photos
of his mule and shack ... "Rustic Americana", very
artsy-fartsy dontchaknow :-)

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:13:58 -0800, Max Boot wrote:

On 1/29/2013 7:04 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

"Mr.B1ack" wrote:
And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the perception of
the 787 becoming that of a flaming deathtrap.

Who has died aboard a 787?

Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall
and fall out of the sky without informing its crew? jsw


Not that I know of. The newest plane I've flown on was a 727. The
other was a DC10. I flew to Alaska & back from Ohio in the '70s and
have never needed to go anywhere by plane since.

You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the
world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your
shack.

Though, oddly, those cosmopolitan euros will flock
over on their tourist bus to take a million photos
of his mule and shack ... "Rustic Americana", very
artsy-fartsy dontchaknow :-)


I haven't seen a mule since the '60s. I've seen plenty of European
tourrists who could give a mule a lessons on how to be stubborn. Orlando
was crawling with them when I worked there as an engineer.

As far as Max, how long has that size 17 US made cowboy boot been up
your sorry ass?

I suspect that Michael Terrell has fewer sexual
transmitted diseases, regrets, abortions, and
mystery illness than the typical cosmo European.

I know I sure have fewer regrets than you
cosmo folks. And, I like it that way. Now, I've
got to go shovel up after my mule.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Max Boot" wrote in message

You are the classic example of why
cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube,
someone who thinks everything in
the world worth seeing and knowing
is within a two hour mule ride
from your shack.

I'm such a person. I drive under the speed limit, most of
the time, and prefer to arrive safely. If I had a kick ass
Ninja rice burning crotch rocket, I'd probably not get it
past about 35 MPH on the Thruway.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Mr.B1ack" wrote in message
m...


Sure, but considering only safety, would you rather drive a Nissan 350Z
with 143 driver fatalities per million registered vehicle years, or a
BMW 7 series with only 11 fatalities per million?
http://www.statisticbrain.com/driver...-by-auto-make/

Is the problem the CAR ... or the kind of people
who buy it and how they DRIVE it ? :-)

I can put a conservative old fart on a kick-ass
Ninja rice-rocket and he can ride it a million
miles without so much as a ticket or dent. Hand
the same bike to some testosterone-overdosed
punk and he'd be lucky to make it to the corner
store without leaving a deep imprint in the
side of an SUV.

He could have his ass on the cover of Cosmo?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Mr.B1ack" wrote in message
m...

You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the
world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your
shack.

Though, oddly, those cosmopolitan euros will flock
over on their tourist bus to take a million photos
of his mule and shack ... "Rustic Americana", very
artsy-fartsy dontchaknow :-)

"Max Boot" wrote in message
.. .

You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians
mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in
the world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride
from your shack.


The most egregious example I've heard of that ****ant cultural
snobbery was from Indian expats who couldn't understand how their
sophisticated ancient culture had been overtaken by Northern Europeans
who lived in wattle and daub (mud) huts until very recently, by their
time frame.