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John Halliwell wrote:
In article , Chad Irby writes When you break a speed record, one of the requirements is that you do it in *level flight*. One could also argue another requirement, is that the 'aircraft' achieving it, is self-sufficient and is capable of taking off under its own power. Note the X-1 never held an official air speed record. I could go with that. But the "achieveing Mach 1 in level flight" part is still pretty solid. If we include diving to gain speed, though, the Me-262 isn't even in the running. Spitfires were dived to M.93 after WWII, and were better suited to speeds in this range than most jets before the Sabre turned up. Which goes to show: make something slick enough and drop it from high enough, and you can go fast as hell. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message m... I could go with that. But the "achieveing Mach 1 in level flight" part is still pretty solid. If we include diving to gain speed, though, the Me-262 isn't even in the running. The Me 262 isn't in the running regardless of attitude. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
"Chad Irby" wrote: I could go with that. But the "achieveing Mach 1 in level flight" part is still pretty solid. If we include diving to gain speed, though, the Me-262 isn't even in the running. The Me 262 isn't in the running regardless of attitude. Er um, you misspelled "altitude." -Mike (Zzzzz) Marron |
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"John Halliwell" wrote in message ... One could also argue another requirement, is that the 'aircraft' achieving it, is self-sufficient and is capable of taking off under its own power. Not if one wished to be taken seriously. |
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" writes: "John Halliwell" wrote in message ... One could also argue another requirement, is that the 'aircraft' achieving it, is self-sufficient and is capable of taking off under its own power. Not if one wished to be taken seriously. In fact, one of the requiremts for the design of the XS-1 was that it be able to take off from a more or less conventional runway. This was demonstrated once at Muroc. It was much more productive, however, to carry the thing up to 30,000'/300mph and save the fuel for accelerating and climbing. The goal, after all, was to explore the transonic and supersonic regions, not to set FAI records. The same goes for the Sabre, too. While F-86s routinely made supersonic dives, all of the accredited Speed Records set by Sabers were in level flight, and were in the high subsonic speed range. (Well, transonic, really, but the airplane was moving on the slow side of Mach 1) -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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There was no report made by JG 7 or any other Me 262 unit of a fighter
sustaining damage on a training flight on the day Mutke claims. Even his squadron mates consider Mutke a bizarre character and this postwar fabrication fits with the rest of his personality. Rob, even MUTKE disagrees with what that website claims for a speed on that flight - he corrected it when I sent it to him in print. That you ignore this, and steadfastly refuse to contact Mutke yourself or do any independent research of any kind, indicate you are a little ******. Aren't you? Gordon |
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robert arndt wrote in message . .. http://mach1.luftarchiv.de/weisse_9.htm "White 9" deserves the credit, not "Glamorous Glennis"! Rob In how many pieces did it break the SB? Nele NULLA ROSA SINE SPINA |
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