PowerFlarm Warnings Display Comparison

YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:11:58 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Unfortunately the Butterfly is not a bright as V7 and Ultimate Le so the camera does not show the definition and color as good. But the butterfly is readable.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:28:53 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:11:58 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Unfortunately the Butterfly is not a bright as V7 and Ultimate Le so the camera does not show the definition and color as good. But the butterfly is readable.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Nice demo.

Note to self to reread the manual to understand what the relative altitude bars on the warning display correspond to in feet.

It looks like the Ultimate was showing +0ft, the audio was saying "below", the Butterfly was indicating same altitude and the V7 was indicating above. I'm guessing if it's close to the same altitude you might get not entirely consistent indications though I always thought the Flarm sent out the collision warnings - I wonder how much is left up to each display device to do?

9B

On Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12:08 AM UTC-8, Andy Blackburn wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:28:53 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:11:58 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Unfortunately the Butterfly is not a bright as V7 and Ultimate Le so the camera does not show the definition and color as good. But the butterfly is readable.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Nice demo.

Note to self to reread the manual to understand what the relative altitude bars on the warning display correspond to in feet.

It looks like the Ultimate was showing +0ft, the audio was saying "below", the Butterfly was indicating same altitude and the V7 was indicating above. I'm guessing if it's close to the same altitude you might get not entirely consistent indications though I always thought the Flarm sent out the collision warnings - I wonder how much is left up to each display device to do?

9B

I got the Butterfly and V7 backwards - and noticed that there is no "same altitude" bar on the Butterfly display so it had to pick above or below. I'm guessing the audio may not have a "same altitude" warning, though it is interesting that it picked opposite of the Butterfly. Timing difference?

When it happens you often have only seconds to react, so it's good to know what the warning is trying to tell you.

9B

On Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12:08 AM UTC-8, Andy Blackburn wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:28:53 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:11:58 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Unfortunately the Butterfly is not a bright as V7 and Ultimate Le so the camera does not show the definition and color as good. But the butterfly is readable.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Nice demo.

Note to self to reread the manual to understand what the relative altitude bars on the warning display correspond to in feet.

It looks like the Ultimate was showing +0ft, the audio was saying "below", the Butterfly was indicating same altitude and the V7 was indicating above. I'm guessing if it's close to the same altitude you might get not entirely consistent indications though I always thought the Flarm sent out the collision warnings - I wonder how much is left up to each display device to do?

9B

Andy,

This video was just to show what the displays looks and sounds like.

I don't think the altitudes are correct as the altimeter in the simulator log file and the ones set on the Ultimate Le and V7 are not in sync with the log file.

I have approx 500 hours flying with the PowerFlarm - V7(Butterfly Display) - Ulitmate Le and the altitudes and warnings I get are accurate. Sometime the lady carries on for another sentence after the glider has passed.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Friday, November 21, 2014 11:40:57 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12:08 AM UTC-8, Andy Blackburn wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:28:53 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:11:58 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Unfortunately the Butterfly is not a bright as V7 and Ultimate Le so the camera does not show the definition and color as good. But the butterfly is readable.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Nice demo.

Note to self to reread the manual to understand what the relative altitude bars on the warning display correspond to in feet.

It looks like the Ultimate was showing +0ft, the audio was saying "below", the Butterfly was indicating same altitude and the V7 was indicating above. I'm guessing if it's close to the same altitude you might get not entirely consistent indications though I always thought the Flarm sent out the collision warnings - I wonder how much is left up to each display device to do?

9B

Andy,

This video was just to show what the displays looks and sounds like.

I don't think the altitudes are correct as the altimeter in the simulator log file and the ones set on the Ultimate Le and V7 are not in sync with the log file.

I have approx 500 hours flying with the PowerFlarm - V7(Butterfly Display) - Ulitmate Le and the altitudes and warnings I get are accurate. Sometime the lady carries on for another sentence after the glider has passed.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Thanks Richard - I too have had very good experiences with Flarm accuracy.

The various displays just made me think I don't really have a great understanding of exactly what the symbols mean specifically and it could prove to be important one day.

On Friday, November 21, 2014 1:11:58 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Do you have a sense for how the FlarmView compares in readability to the V7 and Butterfly display? Screen seems small on the FlarmView, but comparable to the butterfly I guess. On the butterfly, I can't make out any targets, then suddenly an alarm. Perhaps that is a scale or mode setting?

On Friday, November 21, 2014 1:11:58 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
YouTube of PowerFlarm Warnings showing different displays

System PowerFlarm Core to (LXNAV V7 and Butterfly Display) to Craggy Aero Ultimate Le57.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThNKceB7LNg



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Do you have a sense for how the FlarmView compares in readability to the V7 and Butterfly display? Screen seems small on the FlarmView, but comparable to the butterfly I guess. On the butterfly, I can't make out any targets, then suddenly an alarm. Perhaps that is a scale or mode setting issue?

Great stuff! Thanks!!!

On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:30:50 PM UTC-8, Sean Fidler wrote:
Great stuff! Thanks!!!

Slightly of topic but I wonder why we are still using clock to tell directions. Yeah it sounds cool but is it really necessary?
In the age of digital clocks, it takes time for most people to interpret it.. Case in point is tow pilots. I noticed about 20% of tow pilots turning opposite direction when I say for example turn to 9 oclock instead of turn left. The rest take few long seconds to interpret.
How about front, back, left, right, front left, back right etc, similar to car GPS? Or 20 degrees left etc? Yeah I know its not perfect either and some people mix left and right as well, but maybe something to consider.

Ramy