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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
AirRaid wrote: I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like the United States is ready to goto war against Iran. in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the region. in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier groups in the region. Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S. would need at least 6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role. I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a massive amount naval firepower there, or in route. then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each could do the job Yes, nuking Iran's nuclear facilities is the only way to solve the problem of Ahmadinejad getting nukes as Iran's targets are too far below the ground for conventional weapons to destroy. I hope Bush has the balls to use nukes in Iran - I think he does. BTW, does the Eisenhower have enough nukes to teach the Iranians a lesson? |
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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
Darn Good Intelligence wrote: AirRaid wrote: I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like the United States is ready to goto war against Iran. in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the region. in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier groups in the region. Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S. would need at least 6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role. I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a massive amount naval firepower there, or in route. then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each could do the job Yes, nuking Iran's nuclear facilities is the only way to solve the problem of Ahmadinejad getting nukes as Iran's targets are too far below the ground for conventional weapons to destroy. I hope Bush has the balls to use nukes in Iran - I think he does. BTW, does the Eisenhower have enough nukes to teach the Iranians a lesson? Would the Commander of the Eisenhower task force obey an order to use nukes without a long diplomatic buildup? |
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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
Jack Linthicum wrote: Darn Good Intelligence wrote: AirRaid wrote: I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like the United States is ready to goto war against Iran. in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the region. in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier groups in the region. Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S. would need at least 6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role. I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a massive amount naval firepower there, or in route. then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each could do the job Yes, nuking Iran's nuclear facilities is the only way to solve the problem of Ahmadinejad getting nukes as Iran's targets are too far below the ground for conventional weapons to destroy. I hope Bush has the balls to use nukes in Iran - I think he does. BTW, does the Eisenhower have enough nukes to teach the Iranians a lesson? Would the Commander of the Eisenhower task force obey an order to use nukes without a long diplomatic buildup? "Diplomatic buildup"? **** that, it won't work. Just nuke their sites now or pay the price for a nuclear-armed terrorist state in the future. Are YOUR balls big enough to deal with the threat, or do you advocate appeasement? |
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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
wrote in message s.com... Jack Linthicum wrote: Darn Good Intelligence wrote: AirRaid wrote: I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like the United States is ready to goto war against Iran. in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the region. in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier groups in the region. Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S. would need at least 6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role. I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a massive amount naval firepower there, or in route. then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each could do the job Yes, nuking Iran's nuclear facilities is the only way to solve the problem of Ahmadinejad getting nukes as Iran's targets are too far below the ground for conventional weapons to destroy. I hope Bush has the balls to use nukes in Iran - I think he does. BTW, does the Eisenhower have enough nukes to teach the Iranians a lesson? Would the Commander of the Eisenhower task force obey an order to use nukes without a long diplomatic buildup? "Diplomatic buildup"? **** that, it won't work. Just nuke their sites now or pay the price for a nuclear-armed terrorist state in the future. Are YOUR balls big enough to deal with the threat, or do you advocate appeasement? How quaint. Someone who thinks any sort of conflict short of all out nuclear war is 'apeasement'. How stupid will you look if Iran already has nukes and one goes off in a shipping container in New York City AFTER the US drops nuclear weapons on them? Because half the world will say 'serves you right' and the rest will say 'I declare war on the USA...' -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
William Black wrote: wrote in message s.com... Jack Linthicum wrote: Darn Good Intelligence wrote: AirRaid wrote: I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like the United States is ready to goto war against Iran. in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the region. in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier groups in the region. Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S. would need at least 6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role. I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a massive amount naval firepower there, or in route. then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each could do the job Yes, nuking Iran's nuclear facilities is the only way to solve the problem of Ahmadinejad getting nukes as Iran's targets are too far below the ground for conventional weapons to destroy. I hope Bush has the balls to use nukes in Iran - I think he does. BTW, does the Eisenhower have enough nukes to teach the Iranians a lesson? Would the Commander of the Eisenhower task force obey an order to use nukes without a long diplomatic buildup? "Diplomatic buildup"? **** that, it won't work. Just nuke their sites now or pay the price for a nuclear-armed terrorist state in the future. Are YOUR balls big enough to deal with the threat, or do you advocate appeasement? How quaint. Someone who thinks any sort of conflict short of all out nuclear war is 'apeasement'. How stupid will you look if Iran already has nukes and one goes off in a shipping container in New York City AFTER the US drops nuclear weapons on them? Because half the world will say 'serves you right' and the rest will say 'I declare war on the USA...' In which case we'll just nuke the half of the world that declares war on the U.S (especially if they're muslim fanatical states) - this would be a scenario where no-one wins, but some will lose more than others (and the ones losing the most won't include the U.S). |
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the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran
"Darn Good Intelligence" wrote in message ups.com... No, but we'll just make sure that the muslim savages lose MORE than we will e.g. by exterminating any Islamic states who support terrorism. Wel that'll be it for Pakistan... Erm... They're on your side... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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