New Cessna panel

Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s and 206s.
It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup (not certified for part 135
IFR, though). At last Cessna enters the 21st century.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


For the Homeland!

"C J Campbell" wrote:
Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s
and 206s. It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup
At last Cessna enters the 21st century.

Good for Cessna, good for Garmin - what about Bendix/King? Do they still
have any gear in the 2004's?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" c172rgATbellsouthDOTnet wrote in message ...
"C J Campbell" wrote:
Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s
and 206s. It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup
At last Cessna enters the 21st century.

Good for Cessna, good for Garmin - what about Bendix/King? Do they still
have any gear in the 2004's?

Bendix thinks their stupid HSI gizmo (which doesn't really do all that much)
is the answer to the GA world's problem. They're self-destructing in my
opinion.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s and 206s.
It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup (not certified for part 135
IFR, though). At last Cessna enters the 21st century.

Sounds like Garmin entered the 21st Century. Cessna just installed
their equipment on the same old ancient airframes.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Bendix/King? Are they still in business? Next thing you're going to
tell me is I can still buy a new KX155.

Dan Luke wrote:

"C J Campbell" wrote:

Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s
and 206s. It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup
At last Cessna enters the 21st century.


Good for Cessna, good for Garmin - what about Bendix/King? Do they still
have any gear in the 2004's?

"Ron Natalie" wrote:
Bendix thinks their stupid HSI gizmo (which doesn't really do all
that
much) is the answer to the GA world's problem. They're self-
destructing in my opinion.

sigh I fear it's true.

When I asked the guy at their OSH booth when they were going to make
an all-in-one box to compete with Garmin/UPSAT, he said they didn't
want to make a "me too" product. As if the KLN-94 is innovative.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

C J Campbell wrote:

It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup (not certified for part 135
IFR, though).

So, if an aircraft has a second electrical source (among the other part
135 requirements - dual vacuum, etc), will an aircraft with this
avionics configuration be certified for part 135 IFR, or is there
something specific about the Garmin 1000 system that does not allow it
to be certified at this time?

--
Peter










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"Peter" wrote in message
...
| C J Campbell wrote:
|
| It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup (not certified for part
135
| IFR, though).
|
| So, if an aircraft has a second electrical source (among the other part
| 135 requirements - dual vacuum, etc), will an aircraft with this
| avionics configuration be certified for part 135 IFR, or is there
| something specific about the Garmin 1000 system that does not allow it
| to be certified at this time?
|

The backup battery is only good for thirty minutes, and Cessna has not
applied to certify the backup system for IFR.

"John Galban" wrote in message
om...
| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
| Yesterday I saw the new Cessna Nav III package for the 2004 182s and
206s.
| It is a Garmin 1000 system with battery backup (not certified for part
135
| IFR, though). At last Cessna enters the 21st century.
|
| Sounds like Garmin entered the 21st Century. Cessna just installed
| their equipment on the same old ancient airframes.

The new Cessna airframes are considerably different than the old ones -- so
much so that they have new type certificates. They have much less drag and
are now certified under Part 23.

Basically, a new 2004 Cessna 182 will compete favorably with a Cirrus SR-22,
but for about $50,000 less.

Basically, a new 2004 Cessna 182 will compete favorably with a Cirrus
SR-22,
but for about $50,000 less.

Hmmm. I don't know what you consider "competing favorably", but the specs
sure look weighted in favor of the Cirrus:

Cruise Speed
Skylane: 141 knots
Cirrus: 180 knots

Maximum Range
Skylane: 550 nm (697 nm with optional extra fuel tanks)
Cirrus: 1000+ nm

Climb Rate
Skylane: 980 fpm
Cirrus: 1400 fpm

The only parameters the Skylane wins are for takeoff & landing distances:

Takeoff over 50' Obstacle
Skylane: 1205 ft
Cirrus: 1575 ft

Landing over 50' Obstacle
Skylane: 1350 ft.
Cirrus: 2325 ft

(The Cessna website seems to be down, so I used
http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/ for Skylane performance data. Cirrus
data is off their website.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"