Pilot's Political Orientation

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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Jesus was a liberal.

Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?

In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.
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Ah. I was not aware that Jesus had said much about politics at all. Can you
show me where Jesus taught enforced socialism? Where he favors abortion?
What was Jesus' opinion of immigration? What did he think of campaign
finance reform? What was his opinion of gay marriage? Where does Jesus say
that governments should own all property? What did Jesus say about gun
rights? What did he say about freedom of the press or of speech?

Now, Jesus did say that adulterers, thieves, whoremongers, and the like will
be thrust down to Hell, which does not bode well for most liberals (or
conservatives, either). He also said that those who repent and stop doing
those things will not suffer such a fate, but I don't find many liberals
taking that very seriously. Jesus cursed the only tree mentioned in the
narratives, and it died, so he can hardly be considered much of an
environmentalist. In fact, he expresses no concern whatsoever when his
disciples catch so many fish that the boat is in danger of sinking. Of
course, the Creator of all things in Heaven and Earth could just create
another tree or more fish if he wanted, so maybe he had different
perspective.

The most that can be said for Jesus' political opinions is that he said you
should obey the laws of the land, be a good citizen, treat your servants and
slaves well, and pay your taxes. He also said you should keep the
commandments and that even anger was a form of murder and that looking at
other women was adultery. Nope. I don't see where either liberals or
conservatives have much claim to be followers of Jesus. Sorry.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of
Jefferson. If Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by
Democrats as a right wing extremist.

He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Free
thinkers are despised by both parties.

". shake off all the fears and servile prejudices, under which weak
minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to
her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
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Dan
C172RG at BFM

"darwin smith" wrote in message
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how much of the money spent on highway maintanance due
to damage from trucks, and how much is from damage by cars?


How much damage do you think a car is going to do to a highway that was
built to support trucks?

In article , wrote:


All of which would have been done whether or not those C-182's flew
those approaches. iow - no extra costs were incurred because of
those approaches.

Well....that is true for the cost of the center building. It isn't
necessarily
true where an approach control serves what is primarily a general
aviation
airport. And, it certainly isn't true for instrument approach procedures
established for airports that have no commercial traffic (which is many,
many
more instrument approach procedures than those established for airports
with
mostly, or some, commercial operations.


How many? have you counted them?

--
Bob Noel

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine.


Jefferson godless?

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote:
Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has
abandoned liberal principles.

Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the
same thing WRT conservative principles.
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Modern conservatives are not traditional conservatives any more than modern
liberals are traditional liberals. Conservatives today seem to be a motley
mix of radicals, anarchists, and brigands. It is especially weird to see the
party of Lincoln (as it calls itself) almost completely taken over by
racists and xenophobes.

I never did figure out how the Democrats, who supported slavery and
generally opposed any form of equal rights, managed to hijack that issue
from the Republicans, who fought to free the slaves, passed the Equal
Housing Act, and enacted many other such reforms. Nor have I figured out how
the Democrats managed to hijack environmentalism from the Teddy Roosevelt
Republicans.

So now you have 'conservatives' running around talking about property rights
and states' rights (originally created to protect slavery) and protecting
large corporations while espousing populist principles. And you have the
'liberals' running around trying to limit free speech and press, disarming
the public, and supporting the worst thugs and despots imaginable in other
countries in the name of 'diversity' and 'tolerance.'

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine.


Jefferson godless?

Apparently deists are thought to be godless.

Wish the government would buy 2 airports near me, 1 airport's runway housing
semi trailers the other is going to be destroyed by a developer that will
only leave 1 airport here that the city owns but for how long who knows?


"Jason Peterson" wrote in message
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The local small airport near me was bought by the government to stop it
from
being bought by a home builder. Now tell me that it is the free market at
work there. The land is worth millions, but the government wants to keep
it
an airport. I guess government spending is not so bad after all!!!

Jason


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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How much did you pay the FAA last year, other than the same
amount that non-flyers in your tax bracket paid?


Considerably more, as the primary source of FAA funding is user taxes
which
are not paid by non-flyers.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine.


Jefferson godless?

He wasn't, of course. And I should have said "many Republicans," since
the influence of Bible-inerrancy believing fundamentalists has not
entirely pervaded the party.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:01:43 -0500, Joe Young wrote:

Tell me
about all the wonderful qualities that make him qualified to be the leader
of the free world................

Whoever is next president over the
He is 'only' the leader (president) of the US of A.

#m

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