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  #81  
Old January 30th 07, 09:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jack[_1_]
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jcarlyle wrote:

Jack, this question would be best answered by Hartley - I'm a
physicist, not a physician. But since we're talking 60-75% full in the
above example, I imagine there would be some capacity left - YMMV. The
wild card is the individual himself - as has been pointed out the
prostrate gland in males starts enlarging above age 50, affecting the
bladder, urge and ability to go.


OK, Hartley we're standing by to receive....


Jack
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Old January 30th 07, 09:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cats
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On Jan 26, 3:49 am, "ContestID67" wrote:
Someone please explain to me the inner workings and psychology of
network news such that it always seems to take a posting on a simple
topic (like gap tape) and then quickly morphs it into some quite far
afield...usually involving a male body part. Strange indeed.


I think it's something to do with most men being totally obsessed with
that part of their anatomy although my view is that they are rather
like bald heads - although each one is clearly different, the
similarities are much greater than the differences.

The really strange thing about it is that here in Scotland at this
time of year, wave flying is often so cold that I would have thought
taking a pee was almost impossible. Firstly there is the nice warm
flying suit that needs unzipping. Then the cold air hits the
equipment which promptly shrinks back to the warmth of the body.
Fumbled manual attempts to retrieve the situation merely cool the
instrument further until whatever it's normal state it resembles
something not much larger than a dimple. Well that's what I imagine
happening, but then I don't have said instrument.

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Old January 30th 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
HL Falbaum
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Since you asked------
The normal bladder can be emptied completely, and normally, it is. In fact,
a residual urine of any more than a small amount (5-10cc) indicates a
problem!--Remember - the bladder is a muscular- walled reservoir. Once the
sphincter is relaxed, the bladder expells urine under pressure--That's how
you can "pee" uphill, while lying down.

One of the problems in prostate enlargement is that the sphincter is tightly
contracted if you try to "hold it" (like to the end of the movie, 500k, ball
game, opera or whatever. It becomes more sensitive to neurologic commands to
tighten, and takes longer to relax. So a person with this problem might find
a slow starting, weak, stream--get tired of waiting and only drain the
bladder partially. With reduced pressure in the bladder, in a little while
the sphincter relaxes more and the urge to go returns. This time, the stream
starts easier, quicker, and is more forceful, with greater volume---then,
the bladder can empty completely.

The "moral" of the story--if you have a prostate problem, go early!--BTW-If
you don't want to drill holes in your glider, and you want something easy,
use a condom catheter with a tubing to a 1 gal plastic bag, with shredded
Depends, or to a 1 or 2 liter soft drink bottle (the plastic kind)---just
stick the hose in and go!
--
Hartley Falbaum
"Jack" wrote in message
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jcarlyle wrote:

Jack, this question would be best answered by Hartley - I'm a physicist,
not a physician. But since we're talking 60-75% full in the above
example, I imagine there would be some capacity left - YMMV. The wild
card is the individual himself - as has been pointed out the prostrate
gland in males starts enlarging above age 50, affecting the bladder, urge
and ability to go.


OK, Hartley we're standing by to receive....


Jack



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Old January 31st 07, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Backer
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Cats wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:49 am, "ContestID67" wrote:
Someone please explain to me the inner workings and psychology of
network news such that it always seems to take a posting on a simple
topic (like gap tape) and then quickly morphs it into some quite far
afield...usually involving a male body part. Strange indeed.


I think it's something to do with most men being totally obsessed with
that part of their anatomy although my view is that they are rather
like bald heads - although each one is clearly different, the
similarities are much greater than the differences.

The really strange thing about it is that here in Scotland at this
time of year, wave flying is often so cold that I would have thought
taking a pee was almost impossible. Firstly there is the nice warm
flying suit that needs unzipping. Then the cold air hits the
equipment which promptly shrinks back to the warmth of the body.
Fumbled manual attempts to retrieve the situation merely cool the
instrument further until whatever it's normal state it resembles
something not much larger than a dimple. Well that's what I imagine
happening, but then I don't have said instrument.

Why do you think we carry "those" magazines in the glider?
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Old January 31st 07, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Shawn
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Bob Backer wrote:
Cats wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:49 am, "ContestID67" wrote:
Someone please explain to me the inner workings and psychology of
network news such that it always seems to take a posting on a simple
topic (like gap tape) and then quickly morphs it into some quite far
afield...usually involving a male body part. Strange indeed.


I think it's something to do with most men being totally obsessed with
that part of their anatomy although my view is that they are rather
like bald heads - although each one is clearly different, the
similarities are much greater than the differences.

The really strange thing about it is that here in Scotland at this
time of year, wave flying is often so cold that I would have thought
taking a pee was almost impossible. Firstly there is the nice warm
flying suit that needs unzipping. Then the cold air hits the
equipment which promptly shrinks back to the warmth of the body.
Fumbled manual attempts to retrieve the situation merely cool the
instrument further until whatever it's normal state it resembles
something not much larger than a dimple. Well that's what I imagine
happening, but then I don't have said instrument.

Why do you think we carry "those" magazines in the glider?


Where do you fly, and if it's in Colorado give me a ring when you do so
I can stay home, with my computer, with what it's intended for:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43841227974645

:-)


Shawn
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Old January 31st 07, 02:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sally W
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At 00:49 31 January 2007, Shawn wrote:
Bob Backer wrote:

snip

Why do you think we carry 'those' magazines in the
glider?


Where do you fly, and if it's in Colorado give me a
ring when you do so
I can stay home, with my computer, with what it's intended
for:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43841227974645

:-)


ROFL! And doesn't the 'female' walk just like a man?



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Old January 31st 07, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nyal Williams
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At 21:49 30 January 2007, Cats wrote:


The really strange thing about it is that here in Scotland
at this
time of year, wave flying is often so cold that I would
have thought
taking a pee was almost impossible. Firstly there
is the nice warm
flying suit that needs unzipping. Then the cold air
hits the
equipment which promptly shrinks back to the warmth
of the body.
Fumbled manual attempts to retrieve the situation merely
cool the
instrument further until whatever it's normal state
it resembles
something not much larger than a dimple. Well that's
what I imagine
happening, but then I don't have said instrument.


There are all sorts of implants available on the market
if you are interested.



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Old February 1st 07, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Lindsay
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In article , HL Falbaum
writes
bladder, being a muscle, can relax, pressure will decrease and it becomes
larger in capicty. (this is the other secret of toilet training).
Eventually, it cannot be ignored, as you all know! You relax the sphincter,
command bladder contraction facilitation and abdominal wall
contraction--and, whew! relief!

If we don't provide a sufficient flow rate to the tubules, they will
concentrate the wastes as best they can, until the pumps can no longer
overcome the osmotic pressure gradient, then they give up! If we don't empty
the bladder, we eventually cannot overcome the pressure gradient and the
tubules and the glomeruli give up. If the wastes are too concentrated too
long, we form Calcium or Oxalate stones.

So what do we need to do? We must provide mild excesses of water and
electrolytes to the system and let it take what it needs. How do we know we
have done that--? Well, we know that we need to excrete at least 400-500 cc
of urine per 24hr. We know that urine should not be overly concentrated. We
know that when we sleep, our blood pressure, heart rate and respiratory rate
is decresed, thereby requiring less urine output. Therefore we need to
excrete more urine during the day. Plan 35-50 cc per hour, and moderate
concentration--light to medium yellow. If we do that, we are well hydrated
and our urinary system is functioning well-no danger. Acid-base balance is
maintained (another source of cognitive impairment).If we drink enough to
maintain those pasameters, we should be fine. Water is good if we are not
doing muscular effort (as we are not losing electrolytes much), Gatorade or
Powerade if we are doing heavy muscular effort (assemble 3 ASW20B's in a
row)--but be careful. The glucose can cause an insulin spike, and drop your
blood sugar.

In the final analysis, it's really simple. Drink enough to maintain about a
40-50cc/ hr urine output. For those who say "I don't pee much", I
say--measure--maybe it's enough after all-maybe not. To those who measure
their flights by "pee bags", well-enjoy, but you may be overdoing it. (I
have seen a FULL 1 gallon ziplock bag come out of a glider after landing!)

I hope this helps

Hartley Falbaum




Thanks, Hartley. It helps a lot.

It's unfortunate that the modern sailplane isn't designed so that you
can pee very easily. (Or perhaps it's my anatomy).





--
Mike Lindsay
 




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