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Here's a silly question regarding plans
I'm building a replica of a 1924 plane. Since it's a replica, it's not
exactly an original design, but there are no plans or drawings, so I get to make up the dimensions (based on photographs of the original). :-) What I would like to end up with, besides a plane, is a set of plans that would be marketable, should anyone else be foolish enough to want to build this plane. Having never built a plane from plans, I don't know what the standard is for documentation. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? thanks, -- David Hill david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:29 GMT, David Hill
wrote: What I would like to end up with, besides a plane, is a set of plans that would be marketable, should anyone else be foolish enough to want to build this plane. Having never built a plane from plans, I don't know what the standard is for documentation. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? The plans for the Fly Baby are an excellent example; they sell for $65. Grega sells Air Camper plans for $25. Ron Wanttaja |
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
... On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:29 GMT, David Hill wrote: What I would like to end up with, besides a plane, is a set of plans that would be marketable, should anyone else be foolish enough to want to build this plane. Having never built a plane from plans, I don't know what the standard is for documentation. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? The plans for the Fly Baby are an excellent example; they sell for $65. Grega sells Air Camper plans for $25. Ron Wanttaja David, As Ron said, these are great plans. You might also look at the Sonerai and the Volksplane plans. There used to be an organization (NASD?) that set some standards for plans. Does anyone know if it is still around? The Epps 1924 is a cute airplane. It looks fairly simple and should be fun to build and fly. Please keep us posted. Rick Pellicciotti |
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Thanks, guys. And I'll definitely keep y'all posted as the project
progresses. - David Rick Pellicciotti wrote: "Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:29 GMT, David Hill wrote: What I would like to end up with, besides a plane, is a set of plans that would be marketable, should anyone else be foolish enough to want to build this plane. Having never built a plane from plans, I don't know what the standard is for documentation. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? The plans for the Fly Baby are an excellent example; they sell for $65. Grega sells Air Camper plans for $25. Ron Wanttaja David, As Ron said, these are great plans. You might also look at the Sonerai and the Volksplane plans. There used to be an organization (NASD?) that set some standards for plans. Does anyone know if it is still around? The Epps 1924 is a cute airplane. It looks fairly simple and should be fun to build and fly. Please keep us posted. Rick Pellicciotti -- David Hill david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA |
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Having never built a plane from plans, I don't
know what the standard is for documentation. There is no standard, as far as I can tell. But I think good plans have good detail, break the project down into small units, have little ambiguity, good organization, and a section that provides an overview of how all of the systems and sub-parts relate to one another. Of the above, lack of ambiguity is the most important. After al,l the reason we buy plans is so we don't have to do all of the thinking. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? The construction manual (plans) for the Quickie is/are downloadable. But use them as an example of poor plans. Plans for the BUG glider are also online and look pretty good. The best plans I have seen - IMHO - were for the BD-5. Plans for the Tailwind (~$175) and the Stewart Headwind ($50) are also examples of what I consider good plans. They aren't detailed in the sence that they tell you every little detail, method and procedure. But they have all of the information needed to build in easy to read and logical format - provided the builder has the basic fabrication skills needed to work with wood, tube, and rag. http://www.stewartaircraft.com/main.html http://www.finleyweb.net/default.asp?id=141 (Quickie plans) |
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The Evans VP-2 plans are on the internet and they are a good example to use.
"David Hill" wrote in message ... I'm building a replica of a 1924 plane. Since it's a replica, it's not exactly an original design, but there are no plans or drawings, so I get to make up the dimensions (based on photographs of the original). :-) What I would like to end up with, besides a plane, is a set of plans that would be marketable, should anyone else be foolish enough to want to build this plane. Having never built a plane from plans, I don't know what the standard is for documentation. Can anyone recommend a set of plans I could buy, cheap, that would demonstrate a reasonable standard for me to shoot for? thanks, -- David Hill david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA |
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The Evans VP-2 plans are on the internet and they are a good example to use.
Do you have a working link? http://volksplaneinfosite.homestead.com/Volksplane.html ...........no longer has them |
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I might recommend buying a book on blueprint reading. There is a standard
that the U.S. Army Air Corps used and there are probably others. It wouldn't make sense to reinvent the wheel. Plus looking at a couple of existing plans would give you some ideas. I am working on a Hatz bi-plane which is from plans. I have the CB-1 plans and the Classic plans. They are ok but there is still a lot missing. I've also seen some plates from the Douglas aircraft company. The smallest of parts was drawn in three views with mucho information in the title block. They are really works of art. Ebby Hatz 598 |
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http://24.132.87.61/drawings/drawings.htm
They are in JPEG format. "BD5ER" wrote in message ... The Evans VP-2 plans are on the internet and they are a good example to use. Do you have a working link? http://volksplaneinfosite.homestead.com/Volksplane.html ..........no longer has them |
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Ebby wrote:
I might recommend buying a book on blueprint reading. There is a standard that the U.S. Army Air Corps used and there are probably others. It wouldn't make sense to reinvent the wheel. Plus looking at a couple of existing plans would give you some ideas. I am working on a Hatz bi-plane which is from plans. I have the CB-1 plans and the Classic plans. They are ok but there is still a lot missing. I've also seen some plates from the Douglas aircraft company. The smallest of parts was drawn in three views with mucho information in the title block. They are really works of art. Ebby Hatz 598 Draw your plane up in a CAD program, 3D CAD would be especially useful. Your eventual distribution would be a lot cheaper, and there is nothing like being able to drop an additional line to get a measurement between point that you find particularly convenient but the original builder didn't/couldn't include because of space limitations on paper. -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/ "Ignorance is mankinds normal state, alleviated by information and experience." Veeduber |
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