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Old September 15th 06, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html


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Old September 15th 06, 11:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html

It was military. This only proves that money is what makes an airplane
fly, not aerodynamics.

Jose
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Old September 15th 06, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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This is a true story, but I think the bottom three photos in the left hand
column are photo-shopped. In those photos, the wing is cleanly sheared off,
where the other photos show a fairly large stub at the root near the leading
edge.

KB


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Old September 16th 06, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kyle Boatright wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html



This is a true story, but I think the bottom three photos in the left hand
column are photo-shopped. In those photos, the wing is cleanly sheared off,
where the other photos show a fairly large stub at the root near the leading
edge.

KB



And the angle of attack looks pretty high for a landing speed that is
twice normal. And I'd be surprised that he'd lower the flap on the
remaining wing during landing. And the starboard side of the tail
appears to be missing. And ...

Matt
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Old September 16th 06, 02:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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And the angle of attack looks pretty high for a landing speed that is
twice normal. And I'd be surprised that he'd lower the flap on the
remaining wing during landing. And the starboard side of the tail
appears to be missing. And ...

Matt


You're right about the angle of attack looking pretty high for a
landing speed
twice normal but that's only if he had two wings. It is certainly
reasonable to
have to have a high AOA and a much higher speed with a missing wing.
In
a F-111 with the wings stuck back at 72 degrees, our landing speed
would be
well over 200 knots with a very high AOA compared to a normal approach
and landing.

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Old September 16th 06, 12:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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The special about it on History channel (about 2 years ago) said that
at first Boeing didn't believe it really happened until they sent their
engineers out. They explaination is that the body itself generates so
much lift it could still fly. If you think about the amount of G's
those planes can pull and the amount of load (bombs , etc) they can
carry they must have an enormous amount of excess lift.

-Robert


Jim Macklin wrote:
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Old September 16th 06, 03:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
The special about it on History channel (about 2 years ago) said that
at first Boeing didn't believe it really happened until they sent their
engineers out. They explaination is that the body itself generates so
much lift it could still fly. If you think about the amount of G's
those planes can pull and the amount of load (bombs , etc) they can
carry they must have an enormous amount of excess lift.


One such Navy/Marine Corps airplane was the AD-1 Skyraider which, if memory
serves me, weighed less than the 3 tons of ordnance you could hang under its
wings.
Somewhere in the Naval Aviation archives resides a set of photos of an
AD-1 Skyraider on base and short final to the USS Bon Homme Richard ("Bonnie
Dick") with one wing folded over the cockpit. Contrary to engineering specs,
both locking pins inthe left wing sheared when the pilot pulled the airplane
off the deck during takeoff.
The airplane was THE airplane of VMA-212 for the 1st Provisional Marine
Air/Ground Task Force (later the 1st Marine Brigade) in early 1955.
Oh yeah, the plane caught the #3 wire and landed without any further
damage. Gung Ho!


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Old September 16th 06, 05:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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When I was a student at Spartan back in the 70's, one of my
class mates had been on a carrier off the VN coast. They
had a problem with a cat shot of an F8. The catapult did
not fire when the button was pushed. They had the pilot go
to idle and fold the wings. Then the catapult fired. With
the wings folded above the cockpit the pilot couldn't eject,
but the plane flew. They cleared the deck and the F8 landed
safely. I'm sure that the movie footage would be
interesting.



"Casey" wrote in message
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|
| "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
|
ups.com...
| The special about it on History channel (about 2 years
ago) said that
| at first Boeing didn't believe it really happened until
they sent their
| engineers out. They explaination is that the body itself
generates so
| much lift it could still fly. If you think about the
amount of G's
| those planes can pull and the amount of load (bombs ,
etc) they can
| carry they must have an enormous amount of excess lift.
|
| One such Navy/Marine Corps airplane was the AD-1 Skyraider
which, if memory
| serves me, weighed less than the 3 tons of ordnance you
could hang under its
| wings.
| Somewhere in the Naval Aviation archives resides a set
of photos of an
| AD-1 Skyraider on base and short final to the USS Bon
Homme Richard ("Bonnie
| Dick") with one wing folded over the cockpit. Contrary to
engineering specs,
| both locking pins inthe left wing sheared when the pilot
pulled the airplane
| off the deck during takeoff.
| The airplane was THE airplane of VMA-212 for the 1st
Provisional Marine
| Air/Ground Task Force (later the 1st Marine Brigade) in
early 1955.
| Oh yeah, the plane caught the #3 wire and landed
without any further
| damage. Gung Ho!
|
|


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Old September 16th 06, 05:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Wasn't there also once a case of an A-10 that suffered a midair
collision somewhere over Lousianna, and returned safely to the base
with only one engine left running, and most of one wing missing, and
one vertical stabilizer/rudder gone? And everbody has heard of the
story of the female pilot of an A-10 over Iraq who took a missle hit
and flew her crippled plane for an hour to safely land it back at base.

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Old September 16th 06, 09:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Leonard Milcin Jr.
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
The special about it on History channel (about 2 years ago) said that
at first Boeing didn't believe it really happened until they sent their
engineers out. They explaination is that the body itself generates so
much lift it could still fly. If you think about the amount of G's
those planes can pull and the amount of load (bombs , etc) they can
carry they must have an enormous amount of excess lift.


Its not about excess of lift, but of the fact that lift was generated on
one side only... it's not like having only one engine working...

--
Leonard
 




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