CAVU and I'm Grounded!

"john smith" wrote in message ...


The Fairchild Suite, eh? Wellll, I'm not sure where to get Fairchild
memorabilia.

Morgan Fairchild? Get get some Old Navy commercials and videos of the
sitcoms she was on.

I thought Morgan Fairchild was the black guy in Driving Ms. Daisy.

LOL...

"Newps" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:

Can't do that around here Jay... inside the 30nm ring of a ClassB
airport..


When you fly and your transponder/encoder is out of date just tell the
controller to disregard the little flashing icon next to your tag that
tells us you are not legal.

should I be surprised that people are encouraging others to disregard the
regulations?

tell me it isn't so..

BT

"Newps" wrote in message
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Javier Henderson wrote:


If it's installed, it's gotta be checked every 24 months.

Of course, you could:

a) Remove it (tools needed: 3/32" Allen wrench qty 1)

or

b) Label it "INOP"

Then, go fly the sucker outside of the areas that require a transponder.


Just go fly fer Christs sake.

it's amazing what talking to the right guy can do.. and now he has a
customer for life..

BT

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Tried to reply last night, but I screwed up..

I'm inside the DFW Class B ring - gotta have one.

This was to be my first flight in my first airplane. I have not rec'd my
insurance policy even, yet. I've "heard" that insurance wouldn't pay if
you
screwed the FARs.

First flight of my first bird (an unknown quantity) = a bit more risk
than
I would take if I had been flying it for some time.

AS IT TURNED OUT, I went out to the airport anyway, and was crying on my
A&P's shoulder. He mentioned that he happened to see the instrument shop's
door open, and suggested I go talk to that guy.

I went in and introduced myself, and the guy set me up for an appointment
later this week. As we were talking, and I was telling him about just
getting the plane and all, he said, "oh what the heck", grabbed his ramp
tester, and said "let's go get you certified". Which we did, so I flew.
And
flew. And had a great time.

Nice guys *do* exist in aviation!

Carl

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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ARRRRGHH!

Just took possession of a '67 172 on Monday. Aside from work obligations
and
IFR weather in the DFW area the past week, I was really really really
looking forward to this morning (Sat) to take my first flight alone in
the
new bird.

Going over the logs once again last night (about the 4th time...) it
suddenly hits me - there's no record of a 24 month transponder check!!!
Grounded!!! Of all the checks we did on the pre-purchase, that one
slipped
by. Shame on me. And it is one heckuva beeeyoutiful day out there.
*sigh*

Oh well; that's the joy of aircraft ownership, I guess.....

Carl

You need the transponder check even for VFR. I suspect he's close enough
to the class B to require it.

If he's in Class B, he's definitely screwed without a transponder.

However, it's not broken -- he's missing a piece of paperwork. If the thing
is working (and, as I said, ATC will let you know if something is amiss),
make an appointment to get the thing checked, and go fly.

A transponder is hardly a flight-critical instrument.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:dmM2c.79638$ko6.426325@attbi_s02...

However, it's not broken -- he's missing a piece of paperwork. If the thing
is working (and, as I said, ATC will let you know if something is amiss),
make an appointment to get the thing checked, and go fly.


Gee Jay, a plane that is out of annual isn't broken either, it's just missing
paperwork.... where do you draw the line?

Ron Natalie wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message ...


The Fairchild Suite, eh? Wellll, I'm not sure where to get Fairchild
memorabilia.

Morgan Fairchild? Get get some Old Navy commercials and videos of the
sitcoms she was on.

I thought Morgan Fairchild was the black guy in Driving Ms. Daisy.

I think you are correct. The female one spells her first name oddly.

Ron Natalie wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message ...


The Fairchild Suite, eh? Wellll, I'm not sure where to get Fairchild
memorabilia.

Morgan Fairchild? Get get some Old Navy commercials and videos of the
sitcoms she was on.

I thought Morgan Fairchild was the black guy in Driving Ms. Daisy.


Isn't that Morgan Freeman?

BTIZ wrote:
should I be surprised that people are encouraging others to disregard the
regulations?
tell me it isn't so..

The first question I ask is, "Am I safe?"
The question, "Am I violating any Regs?" is quite a ways down the list.
Regardless, if the answer to the first question is YES, I keep flying.
FAR 91.3 allows me creative license. ;-)

Jay Honeck wrote:
If he's in Class B, he's definitely screwed without a transponder.
However, it's not broken -- he's missing a piece of paperwork. If the thing
is working (and, as I said, ATC will let you know if something is amiss),
make an appointment to get the thing checked, and go fly.
A transponder is hardly a flight-critical instrument.

The Regs allow for operation within Class B without a transponder,
working or absent. Even under the Veil!