Slow Down, Speed up

Several years ago, I was told that the US signals for slow down and speed
up are not the same as used in Europe.
Can any European friends confirm or deny this?

In USA, Slow Down is yaw
Speed Up is Rock wings

Thanks,

Bob

On Apr 12, 5:15*pm, Robert Gaines
wrote:
*Several years ago, I was told that the US signals for slow down and speed
up are not the same as used in Europe.
*Can any European friends confirm or deny this?

* In USA, *Slow Down is yaw
* Speed Up is *Rock wings

*Thanks,

*Bob

Presuming ground launching, most operations I'm aware of no longer
rock wings for speed up, but simply lower the nose. The tail wag, or
yaw, is still used for slow down.

Frank Whiteley

Frank Whiteley skrev:
On Apr 12, 5:15 pm, Robert Gaines
wrote:
Several years ago, I was told that the US signals for slow down and speed
up are not the same as used in Europe.
Can any European friends confirm or deny this?

In USA, Slow Down is yaw
Speed Up is Rock wings

Thanks,

Bob

Presuming ground launching, most operations I'm aware of no longer
rock wings for speed up, but simply lower the nose. The tail wag, or
yaw, is still used for slow down.

Frank Whiteley

In Denmark, it's exactly the opposite...

Yaw/Rudder for speed up, Roll/Ailerons for slow down and they are the
same in Germany as far as I know.

/J

In Denmark, it's exactly the opposite...

Yaw/Rudder for speed up, Roll/Ailerons for slow down and they are the
same in Germany as far as I know.

Interesting. I remember the US signals by remembering that if I'm slow
on the edge of a stall the last thing I want to do is aggressive
ruddering.

John Cochrane

UK BGA: rudder for too fast and ailerons for too slow (in 20 years of being

around winch sites I have never seen or used the latter) I am staggered
that
the alternative method is used anywhere, even if the correct and expected
pre
cursor is to lower the nose and unload the airframe.

GG

(It's more like 25 years now that I think of it!)

At 20:53 15 April 2009, John Cochrane wrote:

In Denmark, it's exactly the opposite...

Yaw/Rudder for speed up, Roll/Ailerons for slow down and they are the
same in Germany as far as I know.

Interesting. I remember the US signals by remembering that if I'm slow
on the edge of a stall the last thing I want to do is aggressive
ruddering.

John Cochrane

The use of ailerons to rock the wings to indicate too slow was discontinued
in the UK in the 1960s, it was thought to be responsible for gliders
spinning on the wire. The appropriate action is to lower the nose. A
switched on winch driver will spot this and speed up, if he can. If you
get a dozy one, or there is a problem then the action is to treat as a
failure and release.
Too fast, yaw with rudder. I have always wondered about high yaw rates
with high angle of attack and wing loading, even if the indicated speed is
"high", but that is still the "official" procedure in the UK.
Yaw to indicate too slow, seems a quick way to get back down on the ground
to me.


At 22:45 15 April 2009, Gav Goudie wrote:
UK BGA: rudder for too fast and ailerons for too slow (in 20 years of
being

around winch sites I have never seen or used the latter) I am staggered
that
the alternative method is used anywhere, even if the correct and
expected
pre
cursor is to lower the nose and unload the airframe.

GG

(It's more like 25 years now that I think of it!)

At 20:53 15 April 2009, John Cochrane wrote:

In Denmark, it's exactly the opposite...

Yaw/Rudder for speed up, Roll/Ailerons for slow down and they are the
same in Germany as far as I know.

Interesting. I remember the US signals by remembering that if I'm slow
on the edge of a stall the last thing I want to do is aggressive
ruddering.

John Cochrane