Orlando Crash Video

I finally got some time to put this one up on our site. See it at

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...ash_1-2005.mpg

It's a HUGE file, sent to us by a fellow newsgroupie who used his TIVO
set-up to capture the video, enlarge it, and run it in slow-motion.
(If you're on dial-up, you may want to skip this one.)

It really shows how little choice the poor Cessna pilot had at the last
moment, when that pickup truck suddenly appeared out of no where. His
choices were either (a) hit the truck, or (b) try to veer to the right
and avoid it.

He chose (b), thus saving everyone in the pickup truck, but gave his
life in exchange. A true hero.

See all the videos we've collected at:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

Some are funny, some are tragic, many are educational -- but all are
fascinating.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 16 Jan 2005 08:01:00 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...ash_1-2005.mpg

It's a HUGE file,

it would be a good idea to give the exact (or approx.) size of the videos.
what is a huge file?

sent to us by a fellow newsgroupie who used his TIVO
set-up to capture the video, enlarge it, and run it in slow-motion.
(If you're on dial-up, you may want to skip this one.)

can you please avoid spaces in filenames?

#m

btw: your c-130 gif on the left upper navigation is broken.
--
http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg

Firstly, thanks Jay for putting the file up.

Secondly, I have to agree with Martin in that "huge" is somewhat
'relative' - for example, I routinely work with video files in the range of
13 to 20 Giga bytes, which I think of as normal - so I tend to think of your
'huge' 14MB as being 'trivial' (took less than 2 1/2 minutes to download).


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
On 16 Jan 2005 08:01:00 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:


http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...na_crash_1-200
5.mpg

It's a HUGE file,

it would be a good idea to give the exact (or approx.) size of the videos.
what is a huge file?

sent to us by a fellow newsgroupie who used his TIVO
set-up to capture the video, enlarge it, and run it in slow-motion.
(If you're on dial-up, you may want to skip this one.)

can you please avoid spaces in filenames?

#m

btw: your c-130 gif on the left upper navigation is broken.
--
http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg

Secondly, I have to agree with Martin in that "huge" is somewhat
'relative' - for example, I routinely work with video files in the range
of
13 to 20 Giga bytes, which I think of as normal - so I tend to think of
your
'huge' 14MB as being 'trivial' (took less than 2 1/2 minutes to download).

Well, for the 70% of American internet users still on dial-up connections, a
14 mb file will take all day to download.

That's "huge" for most people!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Even a good dial up should be able to move that in a little under an hour.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:wlGGd.10869$EG1.6665@attbi_s53...
Secondly, I have to agree with Martin in that "huge" is somewhat
'relative' - for example, I routinely work with video files in the range
of
13 to 20 Giga bytes, which I think of as normal - so I tend to think of
your
'huge' 14MB as being 'trivial' (took less than 2 1/2 minutes to
download).

Well, for the 70% of American internet users still on dial-up connections,
a
14 mb file will take all day to download.

That's "huge" for most people!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

So your point is that there is no such thing as context?

"Cockpit Colin" wrote:

Firstly, thanks Jay for putting the file up.

Secondly, I have to agree with Martin in that "huge" is somewhat
'relative' - for example, I routinely work with video files in the
range of 13 to 20 Giga bytes, which I think of as normal - so I
tend to think of your 'huge' 14MB as being 'trivial' (took less
than 2 1/2 minutes to download).


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what I fail to understand, is while he was still above tree top height.. he
did not do a 90 right into that golf course.. trees are more forgiving than
concrete power poles..

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
I finally got some time to put this one up on our site. See it at

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...ash_1-2005.mpg

It's a HUGE file, sent to us by a fellow newsgroupie who used his TIVO
set-up to capture the video, enlarge it, and run it in slow-motion.
(If you're on dial-up, you may want to skip this one.)

It really shows how little choice the poor Cessna pilot had at the last
moment, when that pickup truck suddenly appeared out of no where. His
choices were either (a) hit the truck, or (b) try to veer to the right
and avoid it.

He chose (b), thus saving everyone in the pickup truck, but gave his
life in exchange. A true hero.

See all the videos we've collected at:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

Some are funny, some are tragic, many are educational -- but all are
fascinating.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I wasn't there at the time and cannot comment on this crash.

I would make the observation that roadways are often the worst option for a
"good" landing. Roads may look like a place to try to make a "great"
landing but are usually far to narrow. The power wires, trees and sign
posts adjacent to most roads can contact a wing tip while the aircraft is
still too high to survive the fall. Even a glancing force from dragging a
tree out on the wing tip will cause the aircraft to rotate around the struck
wing and we will see something close to a slow snap roll where the inside
wing will be stalled and the outside wing will rise sharply. This is a
horizontal spin.

Roadways are also full of big heavy steel things both moving and parked and
full of people who will not be aware you are in distress.

Always remember:
"In any emergency you are now flying an aircraft that belongs to your
insurance company in which you hope to preserve the lives of your passengers
and yourself."

If all else fails try to fly the aircraft as far into the crash as you can.

It is better to hit the bottom of a tree almost stopped than to hit near the
top almost flying.

Blue skies to you all

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:fuxGd.1367$ry.1317@fed1read05...
what I fail to understand, is while he was still above tree top height..
he
did not do a 90 right into that golf course.. trees are more forgiving
than
concrete power poles..

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
I finally got some time to put this one up on our site. See it at


http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...a_crash_1-2005
..mpg

It's a HUGE file, sent to us by a fellow newsgroupie who used his TIVO
set-up to capture the video, enlarge it, and run it in slow-motion.
(If you're on dial-up, you may want to skip this one.)

It really shows how little choice the poor Cessna pilot had at the last
moment, when that pickup truck suddenly appeared out of no where. His
choices were either (a) hit the truck, or (b) try to veer to the right
and avoid it.

He chose (b), thus saving everyone in the pickup truck, but gave his
life in exchange. A true hero.

See all the videos we've collected at:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

Some are funny, some are tragic, many are educational -- but all are
fascinating.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:fuxGd.1367$ry.1317@fed1read05...
what I fail to understand, is while he was still above tree top height..
he
did not do a 90 right into that golf course.. trees are more forgiving
than
concrete power poles..

I wondered the same thing - the other thing I found surprising is that this
was a fatal accident - from the point at which the aircraft hits the wire it
appears to come to a halt quickly and then drops vertically. Sure, nothing
I'd like to try in practice, but I didn't see anything that I would have
thought would have killed anyone, assuming they were belted in good and
tight.

I would surmised that the death incurred from the instantaneous stop with a
concrete pole.. even then he was still flying.. so hitting that pole at an
estimated 45-55mph.. would be the same as hitting that pole with your light
weight car.. without the benefit of an airbag.

BT

"Cockpit Colin" wrote in message
...
"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:fuxGd.1367$ry.1317@fed1read05...
what I fail to understand, is while he was still above tree top height..
he
did not do a 90 right into that golf course.. trees are more forgiving
than
concrete power poles..

I wondered the same thing - the other thing I found surprising is that
this
was a fatal accident - from the point at which the aircraft hits the wire
it
appears to come to a halt quickly and then drops vertically. Sure, nothing
I'd like to try in practice, but I didn't see anything that I would have
thought would have killed anyone, assuming they were belted in good and
tight.