A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » General Aviation
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Mode S code?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old July 21st 04, 04:26 AM
Jim Knoyle
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
news:3xhLc.132243$IQ4.127452@attbi_s02...
Ron Natalie wrote:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message

...

Ron,


Each aircraft registration has a mode S. It's
constant whether the N number changes


What's the difference between N number and aircraft registration in
the above quote?



You can change the N number. The Mode S is tied to the aircraft itself

(the
model and serial #).

So the Mode S number bound to the airframe. Is that the Airworthiness
Certificate? It's all sort of strange because you can replace your
transponder, a wing, radios, fuel tanks, the engine... just what is the
"aircraft"? One view is that it is the file card-size plate that
identifies the aircraft. But I thought that has the N-number on it.

Let me guess: the aircraft is the same as the N-number and that cannot
be changed. The Mode-S number is simply a reflection of the N-number.
Removing the transponder from a plane probably requires the technician
to zero the Mode-S number in the transponder. Installing a transponder
requires the tech to lookup the Mode-S number based on the N-number


Actually, one of the connectors on the rack into which the
transponder is installed has a set of contacts that are encoded
with the code for that aircraft. *Any* transponder plugged into
that position has the info for that specific airframe. Same kind
of technique is used for CVR, FDR and several other boxes.



  #12  
Old July 21st 04, 05:29 PM
Ron Natalie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Actually, one of the connectors on the rack into which the
transponder is installed has a set of contacts that are encoded
with the code for that aircraft. *Any* transponder plugged into
that position has the info for that specific airframe. Same kind
of technique is used for CVR, FDR and several other boxes.


I'm not talking about the physical location of the code.

I'm talking about the assignment. When your aircraft is registered
in the FAA database it gets a Mode S code (whether you have a Mode
S transponder or not). You can change the N numbers or the owners,
etc... but the Mode S assignment stays with that aircraft in the database.

  #13  
Old July 22nd 04, 01:45 AM
Jim Knoyle
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Actually, one of the connectors on the rack into which the
transponder is installed has a set of contacts that are encoded
with the code for that aircraft. *Any* transponder plugged into
that position has the info for that specific airframe. Same kind
of technique is used for CVR, FDR and several other boxes.


I'm not talking about the physical location of the code.

I'm talking about the assignment. When your aircraft is registered
in the FAA database it gets a Mode S code (whether you have a Mode
S transponder or not). You can change the N numbers or the owners,
etc... but the Mode S assignment stays with that aircraft in the database.

I'd hate to see any kind of misunderstanding here but I still think
my response was perfectly valid for the previous three lines:
" Removing the transponder from a plane probably requires the technician
to zero the Mode-S number in the transponder. Installing a transponder
requires the tech to lookup the Mode-S number based on the N-number."

JK (one of those technicians, retired)





  #14  
Old August 21st 04, 03:15 AM
Mike Ferrer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Depends on the transponder. The Garmin GTX-330, for example, is software
programmable and swapping out transponder requires keyboard entry of the
mode S address by the technician. Not to mention recertification by a
certificated repair station...

Mike


"Jim Knoyle" wrote in message
...

Actually, one of the connectors on the rack into which the
transponder is installed has a set of contacts that are encoded
with the code for that aircraft. *Any* transponder plugged into
that position has the info for that specific airframe. Same kind
of technique is used for CVR, FDR and several other boxes.





  #15  
Old August 21st 04, 04:16 PM
Jim Knoyle
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mike Ferrer" wrote in message
...
Depends on the transponder. The Garmin GTX-330, for example, is software
programmable and swapping out transponder requires keyboard entry of the
mode S address by the technician. Not to mention recertification by a
certificated repair station...

Mike

Thanks for the info. Sometimes I assume too much from
my experience limited to 727 ... 767 & DC-10.

JK

"Jim Knoyle" wrote in message
...

Actually, one of the connectors on the rack into which the
transponder is installed has a set of contacts that are encoded
with the code for that aircraft. *Any* transponder plugged into
that position has the info for that specific airframe. Same kind
of technique is used for CVR, FDR and several other boxes.







 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Non-radar transponder codes Michael Instrument Flight Rules 16 February 13th 04 01:15 PM
Transponder code switching Ken Pruchnick Instrument Flight Rules 30 October 12th 03 08:31 PM
USAF = US Amphetamine Fools RT Military Aviation 104 September 25th 03 03:17 PM
"New" ASCC code names Andreas Parsch Military Aviation 0 September 9th 03 08:04 AM
Mode S questoin JerryK Instrument Flight Rules 1 July 17th 03 09:56 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.