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DG goes the sustainer option.
Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce
a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. |
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the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high
desert.. (US) BT "Paul" wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. |
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In article Ldyuc.3832$lL1.2063@fed1read03,
"BTIZ" wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high desert.. (US) Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A "turbo" is a power improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. -- Bruce |
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Someone please correct me if I've got this wrong. I thought the term
"Turbo" as it applies to gliders means that the sustainer engine can be started simply by using the propeller(s): i.e., the forward movement of the glider thru the air will cause the propeller(s) to act as a "turbine" to start the engine(hence the term turbo). Weight savings are realized due to lack of electric starter (and battery?). Regards, -Doug Bruce Hoult wrote: In article Ldyuc.3832$lL1.2063@fed1read03, "BTIZ" wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high desert.. (US) Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A "turbo" is a power improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. -- Bruce |
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That's a correct definition of TURBO. As you mentioned
they weigh less because of not having a starter and the large battery system but also because they use smaller direct drive engines thereby eliminating the reduction drive. At 11:24 31 May 2004, Doug Hoffman wrote: Someone please correct me if I've got this wrong. I thought the term 'Turbo' as it applies to gliders means that the sustainer engine can be started simply by using the propeller(s): i.e., the forward movement of the glider thru the air will cause the propeller(s) to act as a 'turbine' to start the engine(hence the term turbo). Weight savings are realized due to lack of electric starter (and battery?). Regards, -Doug Bruce Hoult wrote: In article , 'BTIZ' wrote: 'Paul' wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a 'Turbo' version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high desert.. (US) Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A 'turbo' is a power improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. -- Bruce |
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mmmm... I thought the 808 came with a power option... maybe I'm thinking of
the 800A.. and a turbo.. would be a step up from non turbo BT "Bruce Hoult" wrote in message ... In article Ldyuc.3832$lL1.2063@fed1read03, "BTIZ" wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high desert.. (US) Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A "turbo" is a power improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. -- Bruce |
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Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A "turbo" is a power
improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. Kind of like how Chevy used to call the lowest trim level on their truck line the "Custom Deluxe" so it didn't sound like the bare bones plain jane that it was. The "Turbo" nickname gives a warm fuzzy to those who didn't step all the way up to a self-launcher. The whole concept is ironic: You are already low, and now you have to DIVE to get your engine to start and hopefully get you home. Sure wish I had a self-launcher (self-starter)! - Mark Navarre 2/5 black ace LoCal, USA remove brain to reply - |
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With either a self launcher or turbo if you have waited
until you were low to start the engine you have made at least two bad mistakes. At 13:54 31 May 2004, Mark Navarre wrote: Uhhh ... that would appear to be a non sequitur. A 'turbo' is a power improvement over a standard glider ... it's a big step down in power (and price) from a standard engine. Kind of like how Chevy used to call the lowest trim level on their truck line the 'Custom Deluxe' so it didn't sound like the bare bones plain jane that it was. The 'Turbo' nickname gives a warm fuzzy to those who didn't step all the way up to a self-launcher. The whole concept is ironic: You are already low, and now you have to DIVE to get your engine to start and hopefully get you home. Sure wish I had a self-launcher (self-starter)! - Mark Navarre 2/5 black ace LoCal, USA remove brain to reply - |
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to those of us converts from powered aircraft.. a turbo would signify more
power.. not less.. a turbo charger ramming more intake air into the manifold.. thus creating more power at high density altitudes... But I checked DG's web to see what all the fuss is about.. BT "BTIZ" wrote in message news:Ldyuc.3832$lL1.2063@fed1read03... the standard engines get a little anemic out here in the western high desert.. (US) BT "Paul" wrote in message ... Looks like DG have succumbed to market forces by annoucing they will produce a "Turbo" version of the 808. See http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/dg-808st-e.html Also has the 600kg all up weight. Nice. |
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Right. Although the usage of the term seems valid in this sustainer
application as well. I'm not sure how the term is viewed in Germany, but here in the US it has been abused in many ways (that is, used to describe a product that has absolutely nothing to do with a turbine. Turbo Tax, anyone?). Sometimes I think that if I had a cat that I wanted to sell I would call it a "turbo cat". ;-) -Doug BTIZ wrote: to those of us converts from powered aircraft.. a turbo would signify more power.. not less.. a turbo charger ramming more intake air into the manifold.. thus creating more power at high density altitudes... |
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