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Why are so many Stemme S10-VT motorgliders for sale?



 
 
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Old November 16th 16, 05:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Well, I'm certainly not the expert (yet), but I would imagine that price
is directly proportional to service history, age, finish, equipment, and
engine/propeller hours. Though I paid at the high end of the used
market, mine, though 14 years old, had been kept in a hangar in a dry
temperate climate, had no more than 150 airframe hours, and about 50
engine hours. It still looks like a brand new ship. I've seen some
others that, though still very nice, look older but, given panel and
interior updates would fetch a much higher price. I think it would be
very xost effective to buy an older Stemme and update it with new
instruments and interior.

On 11/16/2016 2:56 AM, wrote:
Dan,

Prices for second-hand S10's range from 75.000 euros to over 200.000 dollars.
I'm wondering what might explain the large differences between such prices?

regards,

Roel


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Old November 16th 16, 05:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Who needs to understand? Just look at their faces.

My best fight to date was a bit over 640 km but I was still new in the
ship. I can't wait until next summer...!

On 11/16/2016 3:48 AM, wrote:
To give non-stemmers what it can do, this video is about a 500 km cross country done in 3.5 hours.
It is so well balanced while thermaling you don't have to be looking at Bumper's yaw string all the time.

Sorry is not in english!

https://youtu.be/KX1B11M_9ZE

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Old November 17th 16, 06:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 2:48:29 AM UTC-8, wrote:
It is so well balanced while thermaling you don't have to be looking at Bumper's yaw string all the time.



https://youtu.be/KX1B11M_9ZE



In the interest of full disclosure - - it's a good thing you don't have to look at one of my MKIV "high tech" yaw stings, as that ISN'T one! :c)

Looks like you are still having fun though, which proves you don't need one of my yaw strings to do that. It does help though!

bumper

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Old November 17th 16, 06:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Prices can be affected by a number of things.

The S10 has a fixed pitch prop and normally aspirated Limbach. It may not have folding wings, which detracts a lot from convenience and speed of rigging - making it a one man, easy operation that take just minutes.

A S10-VT has a turbo charged, intercooled engine and prop that has take off and cruise positions.

There are also two panel shapes, the earlier standard panel and the "mountain soaring" panel that is a little smaller, but easier for the pilot or passenger to see out the opposite side of the canopy - since it's introduction, I think most Stemmes are sold with this option.

I think those are the main options and those that would be the most expensive to retrofit.

A few options, at least back when I purchased my ship in '97, like long range tanks, if you ordered you paid for them, and if you didn't order them, you got them for free anyway, as "all" the wings came with them!
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Old November 17th 16, 07:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The Limbach engined S10 could also have the VP (variable
pitch) prop.

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Old November 17th 16, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thanks for the responses!
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Old November 18th 16, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php
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Old November 18th 16, 12:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:45:35 -0800, srathbunr5 wrote:

On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

According to the comments in this reference and an article in Wikipedia
he was actually towed up and glided over Everest. The tow pilot (Richard
Meredith-Hay) confirms this: "Despite some very marginal weather
conditions and some last minute technical glitches the hang glider was
towed to a point very close to the summit. The microlight pilot exchanged
waves with a group of climbers who were standing on the summit as he flew
over Everest!".

Thats an interesting and skilful flight, but it isn't "soaring Everest",
which means climbing up and above the mountain without using an engine,
as Klaus Ohlman did and is shown in the videos I referenced.

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php

Angelo was not the first man to fly over Everest as this link claims:
that was done by Lord Clydesdale and Stewart Blacker in 1933, flying a
modified Westland PV-3 and accompanied by two other pilots in a Westland
PV-5.


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Old November 18th 16, 02:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Soaring Everest. Time to get picky with definitions.
http://www.xcmag.com/2013/05/60-year...-highest-peak/
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Old June 1st 17, 05:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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hi i want to trade my appartment in thailand for stemme s 10vt
price range is + - 85.000 euro
18th floor 1 bedroom, living , 2 toilets, 1 XL bath tub.. building is accommodated with sauna fitness swimming pool restaurant located in bangkok rama3. at pst condo. 5 min to shopping malls. +-3 km to center of bangkok. the rent is 500 euro per/m. but is not for rent at the moment
i have never glide befor, this summer im getting my firt lesson and im hoping a trade for a glider as wel.

you can contact me by 0066 (0) 87 031 28 52






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