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I wrote an article for Soaring, that will appear in the July issue.
Title: "Gizmo Future." A somewhat unusual view of the "what's in the future for Soaring" kind of article. It's on my webpage if you just can't wait for July, http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john...ers/gizmo.html John Cochrane |
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John,
One of the best soaring related articles I have read in a long time! You ask about a military application for thermal detectors. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the US military is involved in exactly this technology, to make their light UAV's able to stay airborne much longer on a given amount of fuel/battery. And you state that your ASW-27 will outfly any ETA if you had these modern technologies. -But.... Then you'd have trouble with ETA's that also have the gizmo's, right? Well, I guess that is what drives innovation, anyway. Cheers, Lars Peder DG-600, Denmark "John Cochrane" wrote in message ... I wrote an article for Soaring, that will appear in the July issue. Title: "Gizmo Future." A somewhat unusual view of the "what's in the future for Soaring" kind of article. It's on my webpage if you just can't wait for July, http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john...ers/gizmo.html John Cochrane |
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yes, very nice article John. Thanks!
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On May 12, 2:56*pm, Tony wrote:
yes, very nice article John. Thanks! I don't agree with you John. Yes from the prospective of an ASW-27 owner or an ASG-29 owner spending $2,000 on a new gizmo is not a problem but it is a competition entry barrier for people who fly $15,000-20,000 gliders. If we keep pushing new gizmos into our cockpits and require them we will cut off many potential competition pilots from the pleasures of participating in contests. Something to think about it. Not everyone flies an expensive glider. |
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On May 12, 3:09*pm, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On May 12, 2:56*pm, Tony wrote: yes, very nice article John. Thanks! I don't agree with you John. Yes from the prospective of an ASW-27 owner or an ASG-29 owner spending $2,000 on a new gizmo is not a problem but it is a competition entry barrier for people who fly $15,000-20,000 gliders. If we keep pushing new gizmos into our cockpits and require them we will cut off many potential competition pilots from the pleasures of participating in contests. Something to think about it. Not everyone flies an expensive glider. Thanks for the important thought. There is a big difference between "push" or "require" and "allow." I also notice the same difference of opinion in cheaper classes though. Everyone seems to love $2000 winglets on Club class gliders. Why allow these but ban $2000 electronics? John |
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On May 12, 4:19*pm, John Cochrane
wrote: On May 12, 3:09*pm, Andrzej Kobus wrote: On May 12, 2:56*pm, Tony wrote: yes, very nice article John. Thanks! I don't agree with you John. Yes from the prospective of an ASW-27 owner or an ASG-29 owner spending $2,000 on a new gizmo is not a problem but it is a competition entry barrier for people who fly $15,000-20,000 gliders. If we keep pushing new gizmos into our cockpits and require them we will cut off many potential competition pilots from the pleasures of participating in contests. Something to think about it. Not everyone flies an expensive glider. Thanks for the important thought. There is a big difference between "push" or "require" and "allow." I also notice the same difference of opinion in cheaper classes though. Everyone seems to love $2000 winglets on Club class gliders. Why allow these but ban $2000 electronics? John I think "allow" is the operative word. One thing that all of the various sanctioning bodies (FAI/IGC/NACs) will have to address at some point is a class that is primarily aimed at lowest possible cost. In the US we have the 1-26, but that's not necessarily a long-term or broad enough solution. Every other racing sport I can think of has events and classes that are very specifically aimed at low cost of entry (Sunfish or equivalent in sailing; all sorts of "stock" classes in various forms of motor racing). If "Club Class" starts to mean $30K or more investment, to be competitive, then it probably serves us right if the "racing" aspect of the sport declines. Probably kind of hard to swallow coming from a guy with an LS8 and a brand new ClearNav, but believe me, the conversation around the dinner table certainly gravitates to "So, what was in that box from [insert name of soaring instrument supplier here] that arrived via UPS more often than I'd like..." P3 |
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On May 12, 1:09*pm, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On May 12, 2:56*pm, Tony wrote: yes, very nice article John. Thanks! I don't agree with you John. Yes from the prospective of an ASW-27 owner or an ASG-29 owner spending $2,000 on a new gizmo is not a problem but it is a competition entry barrier for people who fly $15,000-20,000 gliders. If we keep pushing new gizmos into our cockpits and require them we will cut off many potential competition pilots from the pleasures of participating in contests. Something to think about it. Not everyone flies an expensive glider. Andrzej - Good point. However, I would like to point out that the current club/ sports class prohibits water-ballast, right? So there's already a precedent for limiting equipment in specific competition classes. And as prices and equipment changes over time, these limitations can be reviewed and adjusted. --Noel |
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On May 12, 5:08*pm, "noel.wade" wrote:
On May 12, 1:09*pm, Andrzej Kobus wrote: On May 12, 2:56*pm, Tony wrote: yes, very nice article John. Thanks! I don't agree with you John. Yes from the prospective of an ASW-27 owner or an ASG-29 owner spending $2,000 on a new gizmo is not a problem but it is a competition entry barrier for people who fly $15,000-20,000 gliders. If we keep pushing new gizmos into our cockpits and require them we will cut off many potential competition pilots from the pleasures of participating in contests. Something to think about it. Not everyone flies an expensive glider. Andrzej - Good point. *However, I would like to point out that the current club/ sports class prohibits water-ballast, right? *So there's already a precedent for limiting equipment in specific competition classes. *And as prices and equipment changes over time, these limitations can be reviewed and adjusted. --Noel I can see yet another sailplane class...."Unlimited Electronics Class " |
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One thing that all of the
various sanctioning bodies (FAI/IGC/NACs) will have to address at some point is a class that is primarily aimed at lowest possible cost. * In the US we have the 1-26, but that's not necessarily a long-term or broad enough solution. * Every other racing sport I can think of has events and classes that are very specifically aimed at low cost of entry (Sunfish or equivalent in sailing; all sorts of "stock" classes in various forms of motor racing). * If "Club Class" starts to mean $30K or more investment, *to be competitive, then it probably serves us right if the "racing" aspect of the sport declines. They did, give them credit. The IGC created the world class, in response to this sentiment. It was exactly your "sunfish" class. And pilots around the world resoundly rejected it. They voted with their wallets, and 18 meter gliders, mostly with motors, are the only things selling right now. Not even standard or 15m are selling. It is a great theory. It was tried. And it failed. John Cochrane John Cochrane |
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On May 12, 6:32*pm, John Cochrane
wrote: One thing that all of the various sanctioning bodies (FAI/IGC/NACs) will have to address at some point is a class that is primarily aimed at lowest possible cost. * In the US we have the 1-26, but that's not necessarily a long-term or broad enough solution. * Every other racing sport I can think of has events and classes that are very specifically aimed at low cost of entry (Sunfish or equivalent in sailing; all sorts of "stock" classes in various forms of motor racing). * If "Club Class" starts to mean $30K or more investment, *to be competitive, then it probably serves us right if the "racing" aspect of the sport declines. They did, give them credit. The IGC created the world class, in response to this sentiment. It was exactly your "sunfish" class. And pilots around the world resoundly rejected it. They voted with their wallets, and 18 meter gliders, mostly with motors, are the only things selling right now. Not even standard or 15m are selling. It is a great theory. It was tried. And it failed. John Cochrane John Cochrane BB, man, you are behind the times. All this is here now and for a few bucks you become a real sailplane racer. Yes sir baby, you download Condor, you buy TA's new book(he'll even sign it), and stay at home. You can compete against Frank and you will shortly learn that thermals are just a key stroke away. Ya, you can fly all day, all nite, any weather, from one to thermal to another and see where they are all at. You can even go around the sink and see how low the bottom of the lift band really is. Make your own weather and even race anywhere you want in the world. Heck, you can now drink your favorite beverage, settle back and if it doesn't go as plan, go to your bed and not be in a tent. No need for Flarm, no need to even look out, as your just a key stroke from racing again. You can talk all you want, with who ever you want on Skype, while your racing or not, all for free. No unsportslike conduct or lost of points to fear. You can even become mother goose and lead all them duckings around. Be grateful BB, I am saving you big bucks. You no longer will feel the agony of defeat, the thrill of victory, or them low saves you been doing lately. No more outlandings or your trailer getting hit, as it did in Szeged. NO MORE AIRLINE FOOD. NO MORE TSA. Since you will be playing Condor now, I problay won't be seeing you at the 18's, so have a nice summer, ya hear............... |
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