twin boom pusher design/prototype for sale on ebay

Search on ebay for item number : 4533523478 Anyone know the name of
the "famous designer" refered to? The performance claims seem
unrealistic at best. I doubt even the short wing version will reach
237 mph.....unless in a full power straight down dive. Just my
opinion.

On 6 Mar 2005 19:49:00 -0800, (rich a.) wrote:

Search on ebay for item number : 4533523478 Anyone know the name of
the "famous designer" refered to? The performance claims seem
unrealistic at best. I doubt even the short wing version will reach
237 mph.....unless in a full power straight down dive. Just my
opinion.

The seller says:

"What is being offered for sale he A completely new MANUFACTURING concept in
aircraft design whose prototype set the Oshkosh air show on its ear in 1987."

I looked through the Oshkosh '87 coverage in SPORT AVIATION and KITPLANES. No
mention of this type of aircraft.

The seller also says:

"Formerly known as the “Jaeger” when first introduced in 1987. "

I searched the EAA CD set for the name. Other than *people* named Jaeger, and
the old "Der Jaeger" biplane, it didn't come up with any new fantastic airplanes
under that name.

So....hmmm, pusher airplane with the pilot in a pod, outlandish performance
claims, production stopped by lawsuits. That "famous designer" must be Jim
Bede.... :-)

Ron Wanttaja

Good guess Ron.....seems likely.

Search on ebay for item number : 4533523478 Anyone know the name of
the "famous designer" refered to? The performance claims seem
unrealistic at best. I doubt even the short wing version will reach
237 mph.....unless in a full power straight down dive. Just my
opinion.

The seller says:

"What is being offered for sale he A completely new MANUFACTURING concept in
aircraft design whose prototype set the Oshkosh air show on its ear in 1987."

I looked through the Oshkosh '87 coverage in SPORT AVIATION and KITPLANES. No
mention of this type of aircraft.

The seller also says:

"Formerly known as the ?Jaeger? when first introduced in 1987. "

I searched the EAA CD set for the name. Other than *people* named Jaeger, and
the old "Der Jaeger" biplane, it didn't come up with any new fantastic airplanes
under that name.

So....hmmm, pusher airplane with the pilot in a pod, outlandish performance
claims, production stopped by lawsuits. That "famous designer" must be Jim
Bede.... :-)

Ron Wanttaja

In article , Ron Wanttaja says...
The seller also says:

"Formerly known as the “Jaeger” when first introduced in 1987. "

I searched the EAA CD set for the name. Other than *people* named Jaeger, and
the old "Der Jaeger" biplane, it didn't come up with any new fantastic airplanes
under that name.

So....hmmm, pusher airplane with the pilot in a pod, outlandish performance
claims, production stopped by lawsuits. That "famous designer" must be Jim
Bede.... :-)
I seem to remember somebody taking the BD fuse and wing and building twin booms
for it .Is there a photo on E bay? I thought it was a one off that was at Osh
back then. I think it might have been a cover shot as well on one of the
aviation rags. If it's the one there was some discussion concerning wrinkles on
the wing while in flight and a design change to heavier metal. But then again my
memory ain't what it used to be :-0
See ya

Chuck S

In article ,
Chuck Slusarczyk wrote:

I seem to remember somebody taking the BD fuse and wing and building twin
booms
for it .Is there a photo on E bay? I thought it was a one off that was at Osh
back then. I
Chuck S


The ebay plane is composite fuselage not aluminum.

Bernadette

On 7 Mar 2005 04:48:40 -0800, (rich a.) wrote:
In article , Ron Wanttaja says...
]
So....hmmm, pusher airplane with the pilot in a pod, outlandish performance
claims, production stopped by lawsuits. That "famous designer" must be Jim
Bede.... :-)

] Good guess Ron.....seems likely.

Ummm, well, I *was* just kidding. Bede's airplanes, if nothing else, have a
certain style, and this one doesn't seem to have his touch. The only thing that
might point towards him is the tubular main spar, but a lot of designers were
using those by the mid '80s.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 06:47:19 -0800, Richard Riley
wrote:

I'm pretty sure this one was a Dean Wilson project, back in the days
when Kitfox split off from Avid.

Could be, I guess. The fuselage shell is a bit reminiscent of that of an Avid
Amphibian. The wing design isn't like Wilson's other projects, though...he
tended to use a tubular leading edge spar. The wing has stamped ribs and is
skinned with aluminum, which is also decidedly non-Avid.

The Ebay write-up also mentions the transcript of a seminar the designer did at
Oshkosh 1987. I went through the forum list that was in the May '87 issue of
SPORT AVIATION, and nothing really popped out. I'm not that "up" on the
designer names, in any case, and there were one or two university professors who
could have been the guy.

Ron Wanttaja

Dang, this one is bugging me. It came up for sale about half a year
ago, and at the time I found enough clues to figure out the designer.
But I forgot to add it to my bookmarks, and now I've forgotten how I
found it.

Bob K.

Earlier, Richard Riley wrote:

I'm pretty sure this one was a Dean Wilson project, back in the days
when Kitfox split off from Avid.

That is supported by some of the scans I just found on this site:

http://www.trilogy-aircraft.com

Bob K.

In article , Doc Font says...

The ebay plane is composite fuselage not aluminum.

As Rosanne Rosannadana used to say " Oh! That's something entirely different.."
Maybe the seller can shed some light on where some of the articles on the plane
might be located.

Good luck

Chuck S

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

In article , Doc Font says...

The ebay plane is composite fuselage not aluminum.

As Rosanne Rosannadana used to say " Oh! That's something entirely different.."
Maybe the seller can shed some light on where some of the articles on the plane
might be located.

Good luck

Chuck S

There is an article in the September 1970 Sport Aviation by Marshall
White titled, Profile of a Homebuilt "Der Jaeger". That seems too early
for the airplane described on ebay but the name is the same. Does
someone have a copy of the magazine to see if it's the same?

Gary Thomas