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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Rocky Stevens writes: I do not actually disagree with people on this NG any more than I do with people on the AOPA forum (though being new to aviation, I do not have many strong opinions yet). What I get from the moderated groups is a much higher signal to noise ratio, as overly personal attacks are avoided. I think that because people know they will be blocked if they post some asinine attack, it forces them to put some actual content into their posts. A tremendous number of moderated discussion forums have long lists of unofficially favored and disfavored members. The favored ones routinely engage in personal attacks and other "violations" with impunity, whereas the disfavored ones are often accused of violations even when they haven't committed any. There are _very_ few moderators who can stay cool, distant, and objective no matter what happens. Most intervene prematurely, too invasively, and with extreme prejudice (the less experience they have, the worse they are). Bull****. Most moderator would be smart enough to throw you out at the first or second attempt to troll. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... No2 writes: Nothing? I'm impatient with stupidity; my people have learned to live without it. Injustice and cruelty tend to irritate me (although that is closely linked to the above). What if you get your Dick caught in your zipper when you are late for a meeting and the boss is right next to your urinal while you writhe in agony?? That has not occurred to me. It takes a real man to not get ****ed at that! I don't see why it would make anyone angry; it would just be unpleasant. That's because you have no penis. Once more your opinion jaded by a lack of experience. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... writes: Most moderated groups would eventually ban you not because of the content of your posts at first, but because your posts are normally carefully crafted to **** people off and be disruptive in the long run. As hard as it may be to believe and accept, people **** themselves off; I don't do it (nor does any other external party). If you cultivate a certain mindset and attitude, nothing ****es you off. Yeah, like brain death. |
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ... Mxsmanic wrote: Dudley Henriques writes: It most certainly does work this way. If the student doesn't graduate a good pilot, the instructor has failed. Therefore the instructor by definition isn't the good instructor in your example. I wasn't thinking of the graduation. After the pilot graduates, he flies. A good pilot is someone who flies well even years after doing what is necessary to get a license. The same applies to drivers of cars, doctors, lawyers, and so on. It's one thing to pass a test; it's another to stay competent and/or perhaps improve over long periods. Instructors have no control over that. Anything you say Anthony. I've reached that point where it's time to say I'm not interested in changing your opinion. -- Dudley Henriques Oh, don't stop now, you just got him wound up. |
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ... RST Engineering wrote: But Dudley, you must admit, sometimes polishing a turd is impossible. Jim Either way, the responsibility lies with the instructor. The student is the workpiece the instructor must complete. -- Dudley Henriques This of course assumes the instructor passes everything that comes through the door. This might work for some instructors. GOOD instructors engage in an ongoing evaluation of each student they take on. If at ANY time the GOOD instructor realizes that a specific student isn't developing the required attitude or attitude change as the case might be, it's incumbent on the instructor to at that point call in an outside evaluation for that student; the continuance of instruction to be decided after that evaluation. For good CFI's, the question of money or profit doesn't enter the picture when evaluating a student's attitude toward flying. There are indeed instructors out here who don't operate this way. For them, the fact that the student exists on the schedule is a consideration. Not so for the instructor doing the job properly. It is admittedily a two way street. Each student must be given the very best the instructor has to offer. In return, the instructor must DEMAND the same from the student. There can indeed come a time with a specific student showing signs of an "attitude issue" where an instructor should disengage. Some CFI's can do this, some won't. It's a personal choice for the CFI. Personally, I have had several students with "bad attitudes" that did not respond directly to instruction designed to change that attitude. To eliminate myself as the source of the failure to communicate, I in each case had the affected student evaluated by another instructor. In every instance (3 in all) the student was evaluated with an attitude problem by the second instructor. None of these 3 students were graduated from our program. I can't speak for their eventual disposition within the training system. GOOD CFI's don't graduate students with bad attitudes into the system. -- Dudley Henriques You can say more and explain less than a junior high school girl. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes: Anything you say Anthony. I've reached that point where it's time to say I'm not interested in changing your opinion. Starting a discussion with the intention of changing someone's opinion is often a highway to disappointment. Confucius? -- Dudley Henriques |
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Abbott writes:
Not from a mental health stand point. Organizations can be fixated on safety, and mental health is not an issue for organizations. |
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