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Old August 14th 08, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_5_]
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Anthony will never admit he's wrong, even though he's asked some of the most
naive and ignorant questions, ones that truly demonstrate his lack of
knowledge and experience.

For the real pilots and students, I suggest joining Pilots of America, a
moderated group. It is what this NG used to be, before it was ruined by
Anthony and his likes.

The discussions are related to and about flying, with reasonable discourse
and even disagreement. At least it appears that the posters respect each
other for the fact that they actually fly and have experienced the real
thing.

During my brief participation, I have never seen it descend into the usual
trolling that Anthony thrives on.

So, give it a try at Pilots of America and let Anthony argue with himself
and the other wannabes.


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Old August 14th 08, 10:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tim[_1_]
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"Viperdoc" wrote

For the real pilots and students, I suggest joining Pilots of America, a
moderated group. It is what this NG used to be, before it was ruined by
Anthony and his likes.


It wasn't so much ruined by Mx as much as those who cannot take a pass on
endlessly arguing with him over some ridiculous detail, or have made it
their mission to expose him as a non-pilot, all with the seemingly honorable
goal of protecting the helpless student who might read something here and
then die as a result.

What a crock. Anyone with half a brain knows how to treat information
posted on a newsgroup, or anywhere else online for that matter. They don't
need help from a few crusaders.





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Old August 14th 08, 12:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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On Aug 14, 7:59*pm, "Tim" wrote:
"Viperdoc" wrote



For the real pilots and students, I suggest joining Pilots of America, a
moderated group. It is what this NG used to be, before it was ruined by
Anthony and his likes.


It wasn't so much ruined by Mx as much as those who cannot take a pass on
endlessly arguing with him over some ridiculous detail, or have made it
their mission to expose him as a non-pilot, all with the seemingly honorable
goal of protecting the helpless student who might read something here and
then die as a result.

What a crock. *Anyone with half a brain knows how to treat information
posted on a newsgroup, or anywhere else online for that matter. *They don't
need help from a few crusaders.



I tend to agree. But I refuse to respond to him , not because he is
not a pilot or because he poses a risk to students or that he wants to
engage in endless argument, there are others that do that also. I
dont mind a robust debate myself ,its all part of the learning
process. No I just refuse to debate with him simply because of his
intellectually dishonesty ( some would say disability). If I have a
debate I expect the outcome to be one of 3 possibilities.

1. I have been proved wrong and I acknowledge that and appreciate the
fact that
I have learned something
2. I have proved the other person wrong, and they acknowledge that
and I gain
some personal satisfaction that I have helped someone, and that
perhaps
in 200 or so hours of piloting an aeroplane I might have actually
learned a thing
or two. .
3. The debate is about something that there is no right or wrong
answer and both
parties agree to disagree.

The outcome of a debate with Mxs is rarely any of the above the 3.
He has a total inability to admit he is wrong. He will either deny it
or try to deceitfully change the topic of what was disagreed with.
He is just a total waste of oxygen. Its a free choice of course but I
highly reccommend the ignore approach.
Terry
PPL Downunder

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Old August 14th 08, 12:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_5_]
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The ignore approach has been advocated, but there will always be someone who
takes the bait, and this starts the endless cycle again.

Hey, I could care less whether anyone chooses to lurk here and watch the
repetitive and useless interaction with someone who has no experience and
nothing to offer. I simply offered the alternative, which is Pilots of
America, and other boards, that are actually focused on aviation related
topics, and not Anthony.



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Old August 14th 08, 03:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
F. Baum
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On Aug 14, 5:57*am, "Viperdoc" The ignore approach has been
advocated, but there will always be someone who
takes the bait, and this starts the endless cycle again.


Sad isnt it ? Agree 101 % that the attention starved doofus would just
go away if no one responded.

I simply offered the alternative, which is Pilots of
America, and other boards, that are actually focused on aviation related
topics, and not Anthony.


Im gonna respectfully disagree on the POA argument. I have made a few
passes through that board (And others) and here is what I have
noticed. First, this seems to be a close knit group of mostly East
Coast pilots who all get together on occasion . While this is good for
them, for the rest of us it amounts to a large quantity of non
aviation related "Small talk" amongst aquantances that wouldnt hold
anyone elses intrest. Second, the level of expertertise and experience
over there seems to be quite a bit lower than over here. Once again,
this is good for small talk but if you want meaningfull aviation
discussion you might keep looking. You can post just about any
response you want on POA no mater how inaccurate as long as you dont
flame or use expletitives . In fact, they have their own versions of
MX over there. They are the ones who know anything about everything
and a couple of them sugest or imply much more experience in much
bigger airplanes than what they actually have, just like our well
known troll. Take a look at the post counters and you can see members
with thousands of posts and many of the high post count members also
have the least meaningful (Aviation wise) content.
I am begining to think that it is just the nature of these groups.
FB

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Old August 15th 08, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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F. Baum writes:

I am begining to think that it is just the nature of these groups.


It is human nature.
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Old August 14th 08, 01:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tim[_1_]
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"terry" wrote

The outcome of a debate with Mxs is rarely any of the above the 3.
He has a total inability to admit he is wrong. He will either deny it
or try to deceitfully change the topic of what was disagreed with.

Terry
PPL Downunder


Right, and everyone here knows it. The mystery is why anyone would attempt
to prove a point one way or another with him when they know this going in,
and yet the same people do it over and over and over again.



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Old August 14th 08, 01:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 14, 8:14*am, "Tim" wrote:
"terry" wrote

The outcome of a debate with Mxs is rarely any of the above the 3.
He has a total inability to admit he is wrong. *He will either deny it
or try to deceitfully change the topic of what was disagreed with.

Terry
PPL Downunder

Right, and everyone here knows it. *The mystery is why anyone would attempt
to prove a point one way or another with him when they know this going in,
and yet the same people do it over and over and over again.


I've played with the troll, but it's stopped being fun. He and the
threads have gotten boring.
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Old August 15th 08, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Tim writes:

Right, and everyone here knows it. The mystery is why anyone would attempt
to prove a point one way or another with him when they know this going in,
and yet the same people do it over and over and over again.


They want to "win," not realizing that it's not a contest. Since it is not a
contest, they cannot win or lose, and so they end up frustrated.
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Old August 15th 08, 02:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_5_]
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Anthony can not ever admit that he's wrong, even when it is blatantly
obvious to those of us who actually fly.




 




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