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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
Mxsmanic wrote:
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com writes: In a PC simulator, when you change the trim, it changes the mapping between the stick position and the simulated elevator position as opposed to real life where the trim changes the forces on the stick. In the game, when you trim, you MOVE the stick (or yoke) back to the "center" position. In real life, when you change the trim, you DON"T MOVE the stick (or yoke). Untill these people recognize these simple, basic facts about the hardware differences, they will never understand how trim works. This difference is trivially small, much smaller than, say, the difference between a yoke and a sidestick, which is already too small to worry about. Since responses that do not confirm your preset world view are to be trivialized, there is absolutely nothing of constructive value accomplished by your queries. |
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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
Jim Logajan writes:
Since you claim to already "talk to" people whose opinion you consider more reliable on trim settings than anyone on this newsgroup, there was no rational reason for you to start this thread with: "Lately I have made a more stringent attempt to trim the aircraft on approach for landing, and I note that I often end up with a trim setting that is right inside the takeoff trim setting. Is this a coincidence, or something that is to be expected?" Yes, there was a rational reason. The pilots I've talked to in real life are not readily reachable in cyberspace, particularly as a group, so it's easier to ask the question in venues where at least a few useful replies might theoretically be had. There are lots of poseurs in these newsgroups, of course, but I know whom to take seriously and whom to dismiss, and serious answers with good intentions are easy to distinguish from personal attacks and replies that try to look smart but convey no real information. |
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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
Jim Logajan writes:
Since responses that do not confirm your preset world view are to be trivialized, there is absolutely nothing of constructive value accomplished by your queries. That is for me to determine, not you. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: Mike Ash writes: Guy who only flies simulators says the difference is trivially small. People who have issues with self-esteem or difficulty learning say it is arbitrarily large. So which one do you think I have, self-esteem issues or difficulty learning? People who have flown both say the difference is significant. Not the ones I've talked to. Nor would that be coherent with more general principles of simulation and operation of vehicles. Do you not consider Usenet to count as "talking", or do you doubt that we've flown both? -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
Dave Doe writes:
So uh... correct answers have been supplied by several posters. I have seen several good answers, yes. The rest went into the bit bucket, as usual. |
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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
On Apr 25, 4:28*pm, Dave Doe wrote:
In article , says... Dave Doe writes: So uh... correct answers have been supplied by several posters. I have seen several good answers, yes. The rest went into the bit bucket, as usual. You avoided my question. *What did you determine? -- Duncan. The metric to use is probably not Mx's opinion, but your own. If you read something you deem useful and might incorporate in your own flying it's useful, else, it's not. I am a moderately high time pilot and have found some ideas in this newsgroup good reminders, or in some cases things I had not considered and now use and I suspect others have as well. Student pilots would be well advised to not read this newsgroup, or to filter the ideas they consider worthwhile through their CFIs |
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Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:29:00 -0700 (PDT), a wrote:
Student pilots would be well advised to not read this newsgroup, or to filter the ideas they consider worthwhile through their CFIs (a)men to that. -- A fireside chat not with Ari! http://tr.im/holj Motto: Live To Spooge It! |
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