Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 23, 8:44*pm, Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
says...

writes:

Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

How come they don't all just crash off the end of the RWY?


Starched flight suits -and lots of macho badges?

Cheers

Dave Doe writes:

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.

The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

The military takes risks that are not acceptable for civilian aircraft.

On Apr 22, 5:15*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Group? I don't believe that was my position on this matter :-)
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Dudley Henriques

No, you were another voice of reason....sorry for using such a broad
word as group,.... It should have been some among us....

Doug

gliderguynj wrote:
On Apr 22, 5:15 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Group? I don't believe that was my position on this matter :-)
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Dudley Henriques

No, you were another voice of reason....sorry for using such a broad
word as group,.... It should have been some among us....

Doug
That works for me :-))

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Dudley Henriques

Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:

Getting out of your bedroom and walking to the local airfield to go
for a fly will immensely increase your fitness, your knowledge and
your self esteem.

But if I did that, what excuse would the boys' club here use to dismiss my
postings then?

If you had any knowledge or at least the desire to gain knowledge maybe
we wouldn't.

Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

If you had any knowledge or at least the desire to gain knowledge maybe
we wouldn't.

Neither is relevant in the "logic" of the treehouse club.

In article ,
says...
Dave Doe writes:

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.

So it crashes on your simulator. That doesn't prove it sorry. Do you
have any other evidence?


The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

The military takes risks that are not acceptable for civilian aircraft.

They take a higher risk - the way you word is is just plain wrong.

Back to topic please, why can the military put more weight on planes and
still fly, yet you claim that civilian planes can not - and that they
will crash. You're contradicting yourself. Your logic is flawed and
wrong.

OT question; why do you post here? Why don't you keep your posts to the
sim NG? What benefit do you get, or expect to get, posting here? You've
claimed sim flying is just like the real thing, why do you post in an NG
with real pilots in it when (so you claim) you can get everything you
need from the sim?

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Duncan

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Your self rightous, holier than thou arrogance?

I'm direct, not arrogant. Some angry young males interpret any lack of
complete submission to be "arrogance," at least when it occurs in other
people. I refuse to back down, and that irritates them no end. But that is
their problem, not mine.

Yet more self rightous, holier than thou arrogance.

BTW, since your tunnel vision and self rightous, holier than thou arrogance
prevents you from seeing it, the vast majority of the posters here would
hardly be called "young".


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Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

If you had any knowledge or at least the desire to gain knowledge maybe
we wouldn't.

Neither is relevant in the "logic" of the treehouse club.

Funny that where ever you post there seems to be a "treehouse club"
that thinks you are a twit.


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Jim Pennino

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Dave Doe writes:

So it crashes on your simulator.

Nobody said anything about a simulator.

Do you have any other evidence?

I don't need evidence to prevent me from doing unsafe things.

They take a higher risk - the way you word is is just plain wrong.

Yes, they take risks that are unacceptable for civilian aircraft.

Back to topic please, why can the military put more weight on planes and
still fly, yet you claim that civilian planes can not - and that they
will crash. You're contradicting yourself. Your logic is flawed and
wrong.

I didn't say they would crash. I merely assert that it is unsafe--and
stupid--to exceed aircraft weight limitations. It really amazes me that
anyone would defend this kind of stupidity. I guess that disagreeing with me
is more important than staying alive.

OT question; why do you post here?

I'm interested in aviation.

What benefit do you get, or expect to get, posting here?

Occasionally there is an interesting conversation, or I get a useful answer to
a question (or I provide one).

You've claimed sim flying is just like the real thing ...

No, I haven't.