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why not all gps?
how long till the vor/ndb system is decomissioned and everything goes
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why not all gps?
("houstondan" wrote)
how long till the vor/ndb system is decomissioned and everything goes to gps? Right about the same time our sun decides it wants to throw an all-decade-long solar flare party. Yes, with flair. After all, it's a party! Mont-blackhole-theory ...#84 It was them there sun spot flares what killed off Dino. |
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Don't hold your breath, Dan... The FAA is still installing new ILS
systems... Ours at HYX is now a month old.. (oops, it's now HQW but old habits, and old charts, die hard) It has occurred even to the bureaucratic closed mind, that a single terrorist with a GPS jammer could wreak havoc on a stormy night, a solar storm could wipe out GPS, etc... Loran will be around for a long time also, same reasons (just to head off that discussion) One basket for all your eggs is always a risk... denny K Montblack wrote: ("houstondan" wrote) how long till the vor/ndb system is decomissioned and everything goes to gps? Right about the same time our sun decides it wants to throw an all-decade-long solar flare party. Yes, with flair. After all, it's a party! Mont-blackhole-theory ...#84 It was them there sun spot flares what killed off Dino. |
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"Denny" wrote:
Loran will be around for a long time also, same reasons (just to head off that discussion) You must be joking. In the marine world, Loran is long dead. I don't think I've seen a loran receiver on a boat in 5 years. In aviation, there are still a few sets around, but only because the cost of upgrading to GPS is so absurdly high. Gradually, however, those are getting replaced too. Eventually, all avionics fail, and few people would invest real money in fixing a Loran receiver these days. Even assuming you can still get them serviced. There certainly are people (http://www.loran.org/) who are pushing to keep the technology alive, and they do make some valid points about system redundancy. The reality, however, is that there is little or no market for it anymore. What good does it do to maintain a backup system if nobody has the equipment to receive the signal any more? I'm sure Loran will manage to find funding for another few years. Maybe even 10. But it's clear that its going the way of Omega, the four-course range, and the dodo bird. |
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I think I saw a Northstar M1 Loran listed on Ebay for $1. Apparently the
open market doesn't value LORAN so much either. Of course, I have one in my plane. But I never use it. KC yup, here it is... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/M1-NO...spagenameZWDVW Roy Smith wrote: "Denny" wrote: Loran will be around for a long time also, same reasons (just to head off that discussion) You must be joking. In the marine world, Loran is long dead. I don't think I've seen a loran receiver on a boat in 5 years. |
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what got me wondering is that i'm reading taylor's INSTRUMENT FLYING
(4th ed.) and he states a couple of times that the maintenance for these sites is not being budgeted beyond 08 or 10 or some such. that book is now several years old tho. i do like the idea of redundant systems of course (heck, i fly with 4 gps units and an outside antenna equipped handheld radio). dan Kevin Clarke wrote: I think I saw a Northstar M1 Loran listed on Ebay for $1. Apparently the open market doesn't value LORAN so much either. Of course, I have one in my plane. But I never use it. KC yup, here it is... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/M1-NO...spagenameZWDVW Roy Smith wrote: "Denny" wrote: Loran will be around for a long time also, same reasons (just to head off that discussion) You must be joking. In the marine world, Loran is long dead. I don't think I've seen a loran receiver on a boat in 5 years. |
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In article .com,
"houstondan" wrote: what got me wondering is that i'm reading taylor's INSTRUMENT FLYING (4th ed.) and he states a couple of times that the maintenance for these sites is not being budgeted beyond 08 or 10 or some such. hmmm, maybe I'll have to start thinking about removing my VFR LORAN. Am I the only owner without a GPS of any kind? -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Walk down the ramp and tell me how many aircraft you see have IFR
certified GPSs. I'd be surprised if you came back with something more than 5%. -Robert houstondan wrote: how long till the vor/ndb system is decomissioned and everything goes to gps? dan |
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Bob Noel wrote: In article .com, "houstondan" wrote: what got me wondering is that i'm reading taylor's INSTRUMENT FLYING (4th ed.) and he states a couple of times that the maintenance for these sites is not being budgeted beyond 08 or 10 or some such. hmmm, maybe I'll have to start thinking about removing my VFR LORAN. Am I the only owner without a GPS of any kind? You don't even have a handheld or some GPS software on your PDA? -Robert |
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The FAA was ready to unload ILS, VOR's and ARSR's for GPS+xponders. This despite big international doubts about a DOD-run system being ICAO acceptable.. Then data about how GPS can be jammed [Lincoln Labs] and 9/11 caused an abrupt 180.... -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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