Dangerous Cessna evacuates govt again

On Wed, 11 May 2005 23:03:48 -0400, "W P Dixon"
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Could you please indulge me as to VFR for PPL , I could not find any
reference to ground .

You can't find it, because it's not in the FARs.

Weapon would be much more effective if detonated at altitude.

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Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Sport Pilot wrote:
Yes, it's silly for the gov't to scatter like hens when a Cessna

approaches,

but that's not the point.


Not when its possible for a C150 to carry a small A bomb in a suitcase.

A Geo Metro could carry a similar size bomb and could have gotten closer
to the Capitol than the plane managed to do.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
kontiki wrote:

Soon Washington DC will be like Berlin... barbed wires, tanks and
outposts.

You haven't been here recently, have you. It already looks like that.

I didn't look that way during World War II, but it started getting that
ambiance during the 90's already.

Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"John T" wrote in message
m...
Sorry, but this is stepping on a raw nerve. Show me any navigation chart
or
NOTAM establishing a "no-fly zone" around Washington.

3/2126 PART 4 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WASHINGTON DC. 5. PRIOR TO OPERATING
THE AIRCRAFT IN THIS ADIZ, THE FLIGHT CREW OBTAINS A DISCRETE TRANSPONDER
CODE FROM ATC; 6. THE AIRCRAFT''S TRANSPONDER CONTINUOUSLY TRANSMITS THE ATC
ISSUED DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE WHILE THE AIRCRAFT IS OPERATING IN THIS
ADIZ; 7. PRIOR TO OPERATING AN AIRCRAFT IN THE DC ADIZ, PILOTS MUST FILE
THEIR FLIGHT PLAN WITH AN AFSS; MUST ACTIVATE THEIR FLIGHT PLAN PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE OR ENTERING THE DC ADIZ; AND CLOSE THEIR FLIGHT PLANS UPON LANDING
OR LEAVING THE DC ADIZ. B. AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS BY THE U.S. MILITARY, LAW
ENFORCEMENT, AND AEROMEDICAL FLIGHTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF
PART II A. PARAGRAPH 7. PART III. THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES APPLY WITHIN THE
WASHINGTON DC METROPOLITAN FRZ. A. UNLESS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED BY THE FAA
IN CONSULTATION WITH THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE AND THE TRANSPORTATION
SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, ALL PARTS 91, 101, 103, 105, 125, 133, 135, 137
FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE WASHINGTON D.C. METROPOLITAN
FRZ. B. THESE RESTRICTIONS DO NOT APPLY TO DOD, LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR
AEROMEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN CONTACT WITH ATC AND ARE
DISPLAYING AN ATC ASSIGNED DISCRETE TRANSPONDER BEACON CODE. END PART 4 OF 4
WIE UNTIL UFN

call it what you will, they shouldn't have been there.

It's a two-layer airspace restriction: The larger Air Defense
Identification Zone and an inner Flight Restricted Zone. Flights - even
by
GA aircraft - routinely fly in both zones. There is *not* a "no-fly zone"
around DC.

Routinely? c'mon.

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John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Jimmy B." wrote)
With all this talk of A-bombs, I would like to say hello to all the
government agents who are now reading this thread.

HI GUYS!

We're all good Americans here!


I thought it was decided that we weren't .. I mean all good Americans ...I
mean we weren't all Americans here on the newsgroups.

"Knock, knock, knock." - Oh crap!!

So your plan was to drop your suitcase bomb last Monday?
Yes, but the weather wouldn't cooperate - low ceilings all day.

What about last Wednesday? What happened to that plan?
Wheel shimmy and a locking brake. That plane will be ready in 3 weeks.

And this past weekend?
Couldn't get a plane. Weather was great, all the planes were rented.

And yesterday?
Only thing available was the Lance. We're not checked out in the Lance.


Montblack
Loathing terrorists (and gang-bangers)
Fearing American Gulags

Thanks for the Renter's Guide to Domestic Sedition... Chuckle

Jay B

Interesting! I wonder how that works? Hard to have a visual if you can not
see? Not trying to be a smart ass or anything just trying to get the whole
picture.
but it is in the FAR under Sport Pilot rules
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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You can't find it, because it's not in the FARs.

"Mike W." wrote in message ...
Weapon would be much more effective if detonated at altitude.

Despends upon what you're trying to accomplish... Fallout works better with
a subsurface blast... Do it right and more people will die from the fallout
than the original blast...

"Tom Fleischman" wrote in message
news:2005051200375350073%bodhijunkoneeightyeightju nkatmacdotcom@junkjunk...
Ha! You guys voted for these monsters, now you're whining...I love it!

Nawh, I voted that we nuke the whole ****in' Middle East... They said we
would get bad PR if we did that... Like the current methodology gets good
PR? Yeah... Right...

"Tom Fleischman" k wrote in
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On 2005-05-11 19:37:12 -0400, (Jay Masino) said:

Human beings make mistakes from time to time,
and we're not living in the Soviet Union.



I think you'd better look again.


C'mon Tom,

Did you have to stand in line for 12 hours today to get bread and a couple
of tins of month old sardines? Did you have to walk to work because there
was no gas to be had for your car? Are you wearing multiple layers of
clothing right now because you have no heat? Are you sharing your bed with
6 other people?

Notice anyone at work stopping and taking notes while you talked to a
co-worker? Any strange clicks or beeps when you used your phone? Did you
feel as if you were being followed as you came home? Did you notice that
the left turn lane had cops standing there so that only large black limos
could use those lanes?

Are there armed men kicking in your door right now? Are they confiscating
everything you own and getting ready to give you a 9mm labotomy or worse?

Are they hearding your family into a truck and taking them away so that
you'll never see them again? This is, of course, after they make a couple
of other stops to collect your parents, your brothers and sisters and that
maiden aunt you love so much.

You used 6 words...I used 4 paragraphs but hyperbole is hyperbole.

We ain't the Soviet Union ... not by a damn sight.

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ

Iflyatiger,

I wonder how we look to people outside of the usa.


Same happened here in Germany. Politicos all over the world are the
same. This over-reaction give John Dumb Voter a warm and fuzzy feeling
- so they do it.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)