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Israeli Air Force to lose Middle East Air Superiority Capability to the Saudis in the near future
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in message ...
BTov wrote: (Jack White) wrote in message . com... The Eurofighter Typhoon will give the Saudi Armed Forces the capability maintain air superiority over any country in the Middle East including Israel. so what? Israel has the best pilots and crews in the Middle East, but the Eurofighter Typhoon is such a superior aircraft with INCREDIBLE BVR capability superior to any aircraft in the Middle East that even though Saudis are lazy and spoiled, the Eurofighter Typhoon will give the Saudis the best Airforce in the Middle East. The only way Israel can gain back Air Superiority over Saudi Arabia would be if Israel were to buy tons of F-22 Raptors. wutever Saudi Arabia has a much bigger GDP than Israel and has Trillions of dollars of Oil Reserves so there's no way Israel can on its own compete with a country like Saudi Arabia in an arms race. & saudis bemoan poor palistanians while their arab whole is giving only 5%.. ;L The only way Israel can gain back air superiority is if US taxpayers will again have to pay BILLIONS of dollars like they always do for Israel, this time for Israel to get FREE F-22 Raptors from the US Taxpayers. it may be interesting to test this eurofighter against arrows.. Arrows are ABMs not SAMs. They are designed to take a Balistic Missile out at Apogee so nothing hits Israel. They are very effective at doing that, 100 percent of the tests with real Balistic Missiles to be interecepted were succesfully hit by the system at the warhead not the main body as the Patriorts did. The Patriot was orginally designed to take out high flying aircraft not missiles. That is why the body of the rocket stage is what got hit by it every time and the warhead then still fell to earth intact about 1/2 the time. The US lost most of the first Gulf War Casualties to a "shot down" SKUD's warhead that hit a building housing a lot of miltiary personel. The Arrow uses a different system of firing a group of shaped charges at the warhead secton of the missile and body both. The real ideal is to force the warhead itself to explode due to the charges going off on it. Hardly cost effective to shoot down a plane. Israel has several other means of taking out incoming aircraft. It has 12 Patriot Batteries, 1000s of SAMs on the ready and then their air to air capabilities and own air to air misiles and guns. They never faced even odds 1 to 1 and no matter what aircraft the enemy flew they shot them all down and lost very few of their planes to it. I pitty any Arab pilot shot down those at home confront, he better speak the words I surrender in perfect Hebrew or he is dead. They common Israeli does not speak the symetic variation called Arabic. It is not their responsibility to know for sure the intention of an enemy that comes down in a parachute in their back yard. Their real responsibility is to shoot first if not Isreali and ask later. In joint flight manuvers the Israeli Pilots in the Israeli built jets went up against US pilots in F116s and though supposedly up against the best of the best they had a "kill" ratio of 5 to 1. For every simulated hit on them they had simulated a hit of five US top pilots flying the most sophisticated fighter made in the world at the time. Arab Air forces run from IAF pilots or they die, that is always been the only choices they had and still will have even 20 years from now. Look, it's obvious that Israeli pilots are the best in the middle east and perhaps the best in the world, but they're NOT as good as you think they are either. I'll give you some examples of why they're not as good as you think they are. In the Yom Kippur War even Syria shot down AT LEAST 36 Israeli Air Force aircraft in a SINGLE DAY. There were 23 SA-6 Sam Batteries in Syria before the start of the Yom Kippur War, and at the END OF THE YOM KIPPUR WAR, the Israeli Air Force was only able to take out 3 of those 23 SA-6 batteries at a great loss of Israeli Aircraft. The IDF GROUND FORCES did take out a few more of those SA-6 batteries, but the Israeli Air Force certainly was NOT up to the challenge of taking on the SA-6 during the Yom Kippur War. Here's another example, I've read on several different military sites that there were a dozen or more Pakistani Air Force Pilots who went over to arab countries during the 6 Day War and the Yom Kippur War to see how well they could do against the Isreli Air Force since they had already racked up great kill ratios against the Indians. They wanted to see "how good they really were" as it were against a great air force like the Israelis. They claim that these Pakistanis shot down at least 10 Israeli air craft in the 6 day war and at least 1 Israeli aircraft in the Yom Kippur war without the Israeli Air Force even shooting down 1 of these Pakistani pilots. It's NOT just the Pakistanis who claim this, even this Indian Air Force historian guy who made this Indian Air Force website claims that. http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/pakpilots.htm Here's the homepage of this Indian site. http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/ This website from New Zealand claims that Pakistani pilots shot down 10 Israeli aircraft in the 6 day war, and at least 1 Israeli aircraft in the Yom Kippur War. http://www.scramble.nl/pk.htm Here's the homepage of this site from New Zealand. http://www.scramble.nl/ I also did do a google search to find out what kind of kill ratios Soviet Pilots had against the Israelis when Soviet pilots flew for Arab Air Forces, but I didn't find anything. BTW, as even if Israeli pilots are the best in the world, they still can't be in the same league as the Americans or Europeans because of the number of and the quality of equipment that the Europeans and Americans have. I'd even have to put the Spanish Air Force above the Israeli Air Force when the Spanish get all their Eurofighter Typhoons(they have already got their first batch of Eurofighter Typhoons I understand). No matter how good an Israeli pilot in an F-15I or F-16I would be, he/she just CAN'T compete with an American Pilot in an F-22 Raptor or a European pilot in a Eurofighter Typhoon. The Israelis just don't have stuff even close to as good as the Meteor BVR air to air missile for example. Most of Western Europe will have these missiles on their fighter planes soon. -- MattA ?subject=HepatitusC-Objectives Matt's Hep-C Story web pages are back at a home. No more drop down ads to get in your way. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/matta00 Truth about Howard Aubrey AKA madyan67: http://www.geocities.com/lord_haha_libeler/ |
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