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Military people and the gov't like their weekends off too.
Trona is not so far off if you are going from Las Vegas to Cal City or Tehachapi BT "Mary Shafer" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:48:16 -0700, "BTIZ" wrote: Sorry, Mary, but you are wrong. You're thinking of an MOA. No, I was thinking of R-2508, which is a restricted area. My mistake. I'm sorry. Mary Mary... I fly general aviation, power and gliders, through R-2508 on regular occasions... mostly on weekends, and while talking to the controlling agency. Some times I get cleared through it, and some times I have to stay clear, in the MOA and shoot the gap at Trona. That's because NASA Dryden and AFFTC don't have the money for overtime, so they don't fly much on the weekends. Makes it convenient for everyone else. Actually, there's not nearly as much flying these days as there has been in the past. I can remember when we'd have to loiter to get into the PIRA, the spin areas, and even the supersonic corridors. These days you can ask for them on the fly and get them, rather than requesting them a week in advance. Although having a restricted area doesn't always do that much good. I can remember one Wednesday before Thanksgiving when we were flying the F-8 DFBW and saw a GA airplane fly right in front of it on the tail camera, downlinked to the control room. The pilot of the safety chase promptly dashed off and got the guy's tail number for Sport (that's the RAPCON at Edwards) and when the guy landed in Bishop the FAA was waiting for him. The guy was just sneaking through the area, taking a chance that no one would be out there on the day before the holiday, I guess. I've always wondered what the guy thought when he saw the F-104 chase plane circling him. Actually we all wondered if he ever even saw the zipper, as the chase pilot reported that he never turned his head. That gap at Trona is a long way off, isn't it? I guess the airline pilots have a real problem when the Daggett Shelf is hot, as it was when we were flying the SR-71, because that gap on the southeast corner gets a lot smaller, particularly when Garry Owen is hot. If it wasn't a Blackbird you were dodging, it was an artillery shell. ATC must have been really glad when we finally retired the SRs in '99. Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer |
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