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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0
This is cross posted from the SSA Home News & Information General
News, It is specific to the US, but generally applicable as well. The original post is avaliable at: http://www.ssa.org/society/ListNewsA...Dtl.asp?id=492 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear OLC participants, On Monday October 9th, the aerokurier Online Contest 2006 year will end. From Tuesday October 10th, flight claims will be scored in the OLC 2007. The start of the new competition year will also mark the release of OLC generation 2.0! Here's a sneak peak at the new user interface: http://www.ssa.org/newsimages/index_2.0_061003.jpg The complete architecture of the OLC program and the user interface have been changed in OLC generation 2.0. The change-over to a modern system was necessary, because the old program could not keep up with the explosive growth of the OLC. To make OLC generation 2.0 the best it could be, a software engineering firm was brought in to help with their special know-how. One of the big changes for 2007 is a much simpler flight claim process. This will really help the OLC continue to grow by making flight claims almost effortless. Your takeoff airfield will be automatically selected from the IGC file, and there is no need to enter the region. You won't have to wait for your browser to load and parse the entire drop-down list of 13,000 US airfields; the most likely airfield will be selected, and only a small number of alternates are loaded if needed. Also, start and end times are automatically selected, and the turnpoint optimization is completely automatic as well. The new OLC generation 2.0 has been completely redesigned to be more user friendly. Hopefully the transition will be smooth, with minimal problems. If you do have difficulties with the new interface, don't worry. The submission deadlines for flight claims with technical difficulties will be waived, as long as the problem is reported by email before the 2400 Tuesday deadline. The submission deadline is now 2400 local time on Tuesday, instead of 2400Z, to give US pilots more time to submit their claims. Some of the many helpful suggestions received have been implemented in the new OLC generation 2.0. Some more will be implemented later in the year.Please understand that it was not possible to implement them all, but your input is still appreciated, so keep the suggestions coming. Not all functions of the new OLC generation 2.0 will be enabled on the initial roll out, and will instead be phased in over time, so please be patient. Remember that you will need to update your pilot registration information for 2007, but you can do it after you make your first claim. Please check your registration email address, so we can contact you if you have a problem with a claim. Make sure you chose the correct club affiliation, so you can participate in the IGC-OLC World League 2007. While you are at it, help sign up a friend as well! If you prefer to use flight analysis software to make automatic claims, note that you will need to install a patch to make claims to the OLC 2007. Check your software vendor's web site for the OLC update. Make sure you also download and use the most up-to-date analysis software version available. You should also check with your logger vendor to make sure you have the latest revision of the internal firmware and download software to avoid unnecessary logger validation problems. The OLC is still the worlds largest decentralized soaring contest, and continues to grow thanks to your support. Please help up make it even bigger and better in 2007! Doug Haluza SSA-OLC Admin |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
I have the good luck to fly in the UK, and we have our own excellent ladder,
the BGA National Ladder http://www.bgaladder.co.uk/ . Most pilots in the UK post to this and not to the OLC. The BGA ladder rule as to time of posting is as follows: " 13. Details of each flight must be submitted, either online by the pilot or via the Club Ladder Steward, within 14 days of the flight taking place. Full details of flights, including GPS Logger evidence when available, must be submitted to the National Ladder Steward within 14 days of being requested. A 10% penalty will be imposed for late entries." This seems to work well, I am not aware of any complaints. W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). Remove "ic" to reply. "Doug Haluza" wrote in message ups.com... This is cross posted from the SSA Home News & Information General News, It is specific to the US, but generally applicable as well. The original post is available at: http://www.ssa.org/society/ListNewsA...Dtl.asp?id=492 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear OLC participants, On Monday October 9th, the aerokurier Online Contest 2006 year will end. From Tuesday October 10th, flight claims will be scored in the OLC 2007. The start of the new competition year will also mark the release of OLC generation 2.0! Here's a sneak peak at the new user interface: http://www.ssa.org/newsimages/index_2.0_061003.jpg The complete architecture of the OLC program and the user interface have been changed in OLC generation 2.0. The change-over to a modern system was necessary, because the old program could not keep up with the explosive growth of the OLC. To make OLC generation 2.0 the best it could be, a software engineering firm was brought in to help with their special know-how. One of the big changes for 2007 is a much simpler flight claim process. This will really help the OLC continue to grow by making flight claims almost effortless. Your takeoff airfield will be automatically selected from the IGC file, and there is no need to enter the region. You won't have to wait for your browser to load and parse the entire drop-down list of 13,000 US airfields; the most likely airfield will be selected, and only a small number of alternates are loaded if needed. Also, start and end times are automatically selected, and the turnpoint optimization is completely automatic as well. The new OLC generation 2.0 has been completely redesigned to be more user friendly. Hopefully the transition will be smooth, with minimal problems. If you do have difficulties with the new interface, don't worry. The submission deadlines for flight claims with technical difficulties will be waived, as long as the problem is reported by email before the 2400 Tuesday deadline. The submission deadline is now 2400 local time on Tuesday, instead of 2400Z, to give US pilots more time to submit their claims. Some of the many helpful suggestions received have been implemented in the new OLC generation 2.0. Some more will be implemented later in the year.Please understand that it was not possible to implement them all, but your input is still appreciated, so keep the suggestions coming. Not all functions of the new OLC generation 2.0 will be enabled on the initial roll out, and will instead be phased in over time, so please be patient. Remember that you will need to update your pilot registration information for 2007, but you can do it after you make your first claim. Please check your registration email address, so we can contact you if you have a problem with a claim. Make sure you chose the correct club affiliation, so you can participate in the IGC-OLC World League 2007. While you are at it, help sign up a friend as well! If you prefer to use flight analysis software to make automatic claims, note that you will need to install a patch to make claims to the OLC 2007. Check your software vendor's web site for the OLC update. Make sure you also download and use the most up-to-date analysis software version available. You should also check with your logger vendor to make sure you have the latest revision of the internal firmware and download software to avoid unnecessary logger validation problems. The OLC is still the worlds largest decentralized soaring contest, and continues to grow thanks to your support. Please help up make it even bigger and better in 2007! Doug Haluza SSA-OLC Admin |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0
The following notice has also been posted to the OLC 2007 site:
Thuesday October 10, 2006 Dear glider pilots, With the recent growth of the OLC it became necessary to rework the current design of the software used. With the start of the new OLC season we introduce the OLC-Generation 2.0. OLC-Generation 2.0 is a total new system and vastly different from the current OLC Software. For those of you interested in the technical terms, OLC 2.0 uses technologies like Spring Framework with JSP, Servlet, Hybernate, Java Beans, Spring Web Flow. Another key signature is the modular structure of the whole system. The main work for the new OLC 2.0 Software has been done by 5 volunteer programmers who all have their normal jobs in the IT sector. In addition to this we have been able to assure the support of a software engineering bureau which we see as important to give the OLC Software further stability. The OLC 2.0 is now a more professional and reliable system, running almost independent from the intervention of the members of the OLC team. The current functionality of the OLC will be the same and the migration to OLC 2.0 will be step by step. Thank you for you patience with any potential problems during this transition. As always we welcome your feedback in regards of errors or functional problems. Please email your feedback to: The OLC team is looking forward to the successful implementation of the new OLC Software. Your OLC/Segelflugszene team |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
One of the goals of the OLC is to be a real-time information system, so
pilots are encouraged to post their flights as soon as possible. We like to be able to see what other pilots did on a given day that same night. It's really exciting to see what people did at other nearby airfields while your flight experience is still current. Hopefully the new OLC Generation 2.0 interface will make it easy for British pilots to post to both the OLC and the BGA ladder. The two systems can be complementary, and it's unfortunate that the UK is underrepresented in the OLC, and not participating at all in the IGC-OLC World League. W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). wrote: I have the good luck to fly in the UK, and we have our own excellent ladder, the BGA National Ladder http://www.bgaladder.co.uk/ . Most pilots in the UK post to this and not to the OLC. The BGA ladder rule as to time of posting is as follows: " 13. Details of each flight must be submitted, either online by the pilot or via the Club Ladder Steward, within 14 days of the flight taking place. Full details of flights, including GPS Logger evidence when available, must be submitted to the National Ladder Steward within 14 days of being requested. A 10% penalty will be imposed for late entries." This seems to work well, I am not aware of any complaints. W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). Remove "ic" to reply. |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
Doug Haluza wrote:
One of the goals of the OLC is to be a real-time information system, so pilots are encouraged to post their flights as soon as possible. We like to be able to see what other pilots did on a given day that same night. It's really exciting to see what people did at other nearby airfields while your flight experience is still current. Will the new OLC remove the capcha that's currently required to download an IGC file (including my own!)? Jeremy |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
The capcha (random text) entry was not needed to download a file on the
beta version I tested. There are no flights posted yet on the release version which just went up, so I can't test it now, but I expect that it will be possible to download files without capcha for now. Jeremy Zawodny wrote: Doug Haluza wrote: One of the goals of the OLC is to be a real-time information system, so pilots are encouraged to post their flights as soon as possible. We like to be able to see what other pilots did on a given day that same night. It's really exciting to see what people did at other nearby airfields while your flight experience is still current. Will the new OLC remove the capcha that's currently required to download an IGC file (including my own!)? Jeremy |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
Doug Haluza wrote: One of the goals of the OLC is to be a real-time information system, so pilots are encouraged to post their flights as soon as possible. We like to be able to see what other pilots did on a given day that same night. It's really exciting to see what people did at other nearby airfields while your flight experience is still current. Well then if that is a goal you have a bad failure. If I fly on Wednesday I have until the following Tuesday to submit the flight. If I make a long flight on Tuesday and have a long retrieve I cannot make it back to an internet connection in a remote area by midnight. Sounds hypothetical? Nope has happened to me in Marfa. The Tuesday deadline it downright stupid and unproductive. Why not have a 72 hour limit or at least 24 hours after landing? It is dumb that the deadline is different for every day of the week with the current system. The OLC team says that the Tuesday deadline is required for them to get published in local news outlets - that is not relevent for us. Why penalize pilots who fly in the remote areas where soaring is the best and the internet connections are hardest to get? Chris |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
chris wrote:
.. Well then if that is a goal you have a bad failure. If I fly on Wednesday I have until the following Tuesday to submit the flight. If I make a long flight on Tuesday and have a long retrieve I cannot make it back to an internet connection in a remote area by midnight. Sounds hypothetical? Nope has happened to me in Marfa. A flight made on Tuesday has 7 days to be posted - the next Tuesday. The rule is easily misinterpreted, as I did, until it was pointed out to me. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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SSA-OLC Generation 2.0 - Submission deadlines.
At present, if you fly on Saturday, you have until Tuesday evening to
get the flight posted. That is 3 days. I have not heard anyone complain that (1) 3 days is not enough time to post, or (2) that 3 days is too long to wait to see all the flights for a day. My conclusion: 3 days is just about ideal, so why not allow 3 days for all flights, regardless of the day of the week? I think the OLC people may not realize just how remote you are when you are flying at, say, Tonopah in Nevada. If you are camping out at the airport while there, you have no access to any internet connection unless you have a friend staying at a motel in town (5 to 10 miles away). Posting a Monday flight by Tuesday evening can be nearly impossible -- especially if you land out in a remote valley at the end of a 50 mile dirt road, and the nearest farmhouse is 30 miles away. Even under those circumstances, however, you probably will be back to civilization within the next 3 days. In a related OLC matter, the new OLC interface has been online at times today (click 2007 on the 2006 page). I notice that the US version is written in German; it has no breakdown of flights by week or US region; and almost a quarter of the screen is taken up by OLC news in German (maybe they could put the advertising there, freeing up space at the top of the page for flight info). Earlier today there were some links that didn't go anywhere -- either they have been fixed or I can't find them now. Perhaps OLC should use the old interface until the new one is perfected? I can't think of any reason why the new interface needs to be implemented on the first day of the new OLC year (tomorrow). chris wrote: Doug Haluza wrote: One of the goals of the OLC is to be a real-time information system, so pilots are encouraged to post their flights as soon as possible. We like to be able to see what other pilots did on a given day that same night. It's really exciting to see what people did at other nearby airfields while your flight experience is still current. Well then if that is a goal you have a bad failure. If I fly on Wednesday I have until the following Tuesday to submit the flight. If I make a long flight on Tuesday and have a long retrieve I cannot make it back to an internet connection in a remote area by midnight. Sounds hypothetical? Nope has happened to me in Marfa. The Tuesday deadline it downright stupid and unproductive. Why not have a 72 hour limit or at least 24 hours after landing? It is dumb that the deadline is different for every day of the week with the current system. The OLC team says that the Tuesday deadline is required for them to get published in local news outlets - that is not relevent for us. Why penalize pilots who fly in the remote areas where soaring is the best and the internet connections are hardest to get? Chris |
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Tonapah
Greg Arnold wrote:
I think the OLC people may not realize just how remote you are when you are flying at, say, Tonopah in Nevada. If you are camping out at the airport while there, you have no access to any internet connection unless you have a friend staying at a motel in town (5 to 10 miles away). While I think the 3 day idea is reasonable, Internet access at Tonapah may be easier than you think. Last time I was there, the airport office had a phone, so you could use dialup access. It's available free or very cheaply (I had one for $5/month, used to have a free one) for low usage people. I recently dropped the dialup because open (no password) wireless signals are available at so many motels, restaurants, fast food places, coffee houses, book stores, city librarys, and even rest areas, that dialup doesn't seem worthwhile any more. Just parking outside the motel/whatever in the motorhome or car with your laptop for a few minutes will put your flight on the OLC - no need for friends in a motel! When we use motels, we do favor the motel chains whose wireless we used while in the motorhome. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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