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Night Currency
Practicing for my IFR, with a safety pilot (required crewmember)
I am not current at night. Can we fly this way, and achieve currency? Not a passenger, since he is required crew. Not an issue for my partner, we both need to get current and trust each other's ability. Is it legal? TIA, Doug |
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Doug Campbell wrote: Practicing for my IFR, with a safety pilot (required crewmember) I am not current at night. Can we fly this way, and achieve currency? He's PIC and you're just the sole manipulator when you're under the hood, but you couldn't do the takeoff or landing (unless you could do it under the hood!) so you can't get current. You might as well just do the T&Gs yourself before/after since there's no way you can both be logging time at that point anyway. -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
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Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs
by FAR 61.57(b) - Steve On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 04:23:40 GMT, (Ben Jackson) wrote: In article , Doug Campbell wrote: Practicing for my IFR, with a safety pilot (required crewmember) I am not current at night. Can we fly this way, and achieve currency? He's PIC and you're just the sole manipulator when you're under the hood, but you couldn't do the takeoff or landing (unless you could do it under the hood!) so you can't get current. You might as well just do the T&Gs yourself before/after since there's no way you can both be logging time at that point anyway. |
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Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs by FAR 61.57(b) And an often overlooked point, takeoffs are included. You can have a logbook full of daytime takeoffs and night landings, and they don't help a bit without night takeoffs. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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"Stephen N Mills" wrote:
Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs by FAR 61.57(b) Actually, to pick a tiny nit, the landings must be "to a full stop," for which I have never found a definition in the FAR's. I do know that "full stop" and "stop and go" mean different things to ATC. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Dan Luke" c172rgATbellsouthDOTnet wrote in message ...
"Stephen N Mills" wrote: Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs by FAR 61.57(b) Actually, to pick a tiny nit, the landings must be "to a full stop," for which I have never found a definition in the FAR's. I do know that "full stop" and "stop and go" mean different things to ATC. Just to make it fun, "full stop" means something different to approach then to tower. "full stop" to tower means you're going to pull off the runway. "full stop" to approach means you don't have the intension to go missed. During training we often tell approach "full stop" and then tower "touch n go". |
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That is a point I had overlooked early on. I was only logging my night
landings, since most of those flights commenced earlier during daylight. A question I still wonder is, If I only have night landings logged, would I still be current to land at night, but just not to take off? or do I need both night Takeoffs and night landings logged even if I only want to land at night (with pax). Again, most of my flights which end in a night landing, are just day-long trips where I get home late. It is a real pain to make special trip to airport after dark just to practice night takeoffs. What are your collective thoughts on this subject? "Teacherjh" wrote in message ... Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs by FAR 61.57(b) And an often overlooked point, takeoffs are included. You can have a logbook full of daytime takeoffs and night landings, and they don't help a bit without night takeoffs. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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