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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
... Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard pattern always includes the runway. What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on the runway. Oz/Crash Lander |
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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
I'v eheard of the overhead break a lot. What exactly is it?
mike "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I prefer the overhead break to the downwind, where you can see other traffic and space yourself accordingly. We do this all the time at Spruce Creek -- especially when flying formation. It gets everybody on the ground fastest. |
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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
A series of predetermined manoeuvres prescribed for the VFR arrival of
military aircraft (often in formation) for their entry into the VFR aerodrome traffic circuit and for landing. It looks like they are flying over the runway at or above pattern altitude, then starting over about the numbers the airplanes in sequence break off, do a decending 360 onto final then land. , On Feb 19, 7:28 am, "mike regish" wrote: I'v eheard of the overhead break a lot. What exactly is it? mike "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I prefer the overhead break to the downwind, where you can see other traffic and space yourself accordingly. We do this all the time at Spruce Creek -- especially when flying formation. It gets everybody on the ground fastest.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
On 2/19/2007 10:04:48 AM, "Tony" wrote:
It looks like they are flying over the runway at or above pattern altitude, then starting over about the numbers the airplanes in sequence break off, do a decending 360 onto final then land. Not meaning to nitpick but just to expand on this a bit, when the F16s at the guard base on my home airport perform this maneuver, they overfly the runway at runway heading and what appears to be about 1,500 feet above runway elevation to the departure end in a single file, turn 180 degrees back to the left downwind at what appears to be the same altitude, then about adjacent to the approach end begin a sharp descent and 180 degree turn back to final. -- Peter |
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"Peter R." wrote: On 2/19/2007 10:04:48 AM, "Tony" wrote: It looks like they are flying over the runway at or above pattern altitude, then starting over about the numbers the airplanes in sequence break off, do a decending 360 onto final then land. Not meaning to nitpick but just to expand on this a bit, when the F16s at the guard base on my home airport perform this maneuver, they overfly the runway at runway heading and what appears to be about 1,500 feet above runway elevation to the departure end in a single file, turn 180 degrees back to the left downwind at what appears to be the same altitude, then about adjacent to the approach end begin a sharp descent and 180 degree turn back to final. Overhead break with 3 second intervals for spacing. |
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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:25:52 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message .. . Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard pattern always includes the runway. What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on the runway. Oz/Crash Lander Here it'd be straight out to pattern height and then a cross wind to down wind unless you end up passing some one. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Is the step to the right something new? I might do that if the reason
for an aborted landing was someone taking the active when I was on a mile final, but if I was on short final I'd climb straight ahead over that traffic being pretty sure it wasn't going to catch up with me (of course I'd notice if it was a hot airplane) , bend onto crosswind and rejoin downwind considering other traffics' location. On Feb 20, 4:18 pm, Roger wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:25:52 GMT, "Crash Lander" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message .. . Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard pattern always includes the runway. What's your point? Standard procedure for a go around is full power, climb to pattern altitude and step to the right of the runway so as not to inhibit other users who may be taking off, and so you can see what is happening on the runway. Oz/Crash Lander Here it'd be straight out to pattern height and then a cross wind to down wind unless you end up passing some one. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?
"Tony" wrote in message
oups.com... Is the step to the right something new? I might do that if the reason for an aborted landing was someone taking the active when I was on a mile final, but if I was on short final I'd climb straight ahead over that traffic being pretty sure it wasn't going to catch up with me (of course I'd notice if it was a hot airplane) , bend onto crosswind and rejoin downwind considering other traffics' location. Not sure how new it is, but it's what I was taught when I did go arounds about 3 lessons ago. Maybe they are just teaching me best practice methods and telling me it's the way it is to be done. Makes sense to be safe rather than sorry though I guess. Oz/Crash Lander |
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"Crash Lander" wrote: "Tony" wrote in message oups.com... Is the step to the right something new? I might do that if the reason for an aborted landing was someone taking the active when I was on a mile final, but if I was on short final I'd climb straight ahead over that traffic being pretty sure it wasn't going to catch up with me (of course I'd notice if it was a hot airplane) , bend onto crosswind and rejoin downwind considering other traffics' location. Not sure how new it is, but it's what I was taught when I did go arounds about 3 lessons ago. Maybe they are just teaching me best practice methods and telling me it's the way it is to be done. Makes sense to be safe rather than sorry though I guess. When you are sitting in the left seat of a side-by-side aircraft, side stepping to the right allows you to see and watch the traffic on the runway as you approach and depart. |
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