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Old November 9th 20, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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FYI, for those who hadn't heard.

https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=1...-20,SCHLEICHER

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Old November 9th 20, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Luckily both pilots were able to bail out. One pilot was injured and is recovering.

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Old November 9th 20, 09:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 1:12:02 PM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
Luckily both pilots were able to bail out. One pilot was injured and is recovering.

Ramy

Ramy, what altitude did they collide and were they flying together? Bob
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Old November 9th 20, 09:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Around 5500 feet, 3500 AGL or so. They were not flying together per se, but were part of 8 gliders or so who flew from Byron that day in the same area on a great soaring day. That’s pretty much all I know so far. The bail out was captured by a photographer. You will need to zoom on the photos.
http://claycord.com/2020/11/07/repor...oygdc08p925lqs

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Old November 9th 20, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 3:46:32 PM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
Around 5500 feet, 3500 AGL or so. They were not flying together per se, but were part of 8 gliders or so who flew from Byron that day in the same area on a great soaring day. That’s pretty much all I know so far. The bail out was captured by a photographer. You will need to zoom on the photos.
http://claycord.com/2020/11/07/repor...oygdc08p925lqs

Ramy

Pretty lucky for the both of them, this could have been a real disaster for human loss. They need to go buy a lotto ticket. Bob
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Old November 9th 20, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Rumor has it that while both gliders were Flarm equipped, one was not functioning that day. Anybody know more?

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 12:46:32 PM UTC-8, Ramy wrote:
Around 5500 feet, 3500 AGL or so. They were not flying together per se, but were part of 8 gliders or so who flew from Byron that day in the same area on a great soaring day. That’s pretty much all I know so far. The bail out was captured by a photographer. You will need to zoom on the photos.
http://claycord.com/2020/11/07/repor...oygdc08p925lqs

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Old November 9th 20, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I can only confirm that one flarm was working since I could see him earlier.. He also had ADSB. I know the other glider was equipped with flarm but I don’t know if it was operative.
One of the gliders was my old ASW27.

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Old November 10th 20, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Flarm Antenna placement is critical on ASW-27s because of carbon fiber structure. A single antenna by the glareshield leaves a big blind spot below. After a close encounter with an ASW-28 below, I mounted antennas on both sides of the canopy. Unfortunately FCC does not allow transmit on both antennas.
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Old November 10th 20, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I wonder if they were at least talking to each other? Ramy, were you hearing anything on the radio? Anyone else?


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Old November 10th 20, 09:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Unfortunately FCC does not allow transmit on both antennas.

Perhaps we should standardize on Rx+tx on top, rx only on bottom?
(Hoping there is a place in the wheel well without carbon fiber.)

Then at least you would have a certain path from the guy you can't see.

 




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