21m tipped Lak 17b!

Master Cochrane, it is a lost cause!

In the great dictionary:
In the entry for "Oxymoron" it says cf- "The reasonable contest pilot"

Bruce

(For those who don't get humour - see the entry for irony.)

On 2013/11/09 10:09 PM, wrote:

Here is a thought! If the ASG29 had FES as a standard offering I can bet the handicap adjustment would be under more serious consideration!

Sean, you just have to stop with the unsubstantiated allegations of unethical behavior by the US handicap committee. Have you approached them directly about the FES handicap? Have you provided them any data they can use? Have you been rejected in a request for a handicap adjustment? Or are you just sitting at your computer imagining some big anti-LAK conspiracy by the evil lords of the handicap committee? C'mon, for once be reasonable. It's going to be a long winter.

John Cochrane.


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Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

Links to 3d views of 21m Lak but still no mention of specs on Laks or any
of it;s dealers websites. Uk dealer doesn't even mention a 21m version!

http://s210261850.on...r/lak-17-21.pdf

At least one appears to be flying:
https://www.facebook.com/lzdesign.si...727338/?type=1

With a FES installed as well.

On Monday, June 9, 2014 12:42:56 PM UTC-6, J. Nieuwenhuize wrote:
At least one appears to be flying:

https://www.facebook.com/lzdesign.si...727338/?type=1



With a FES installed as well.

There are also some photos on the LAK website at:

http://lak.lt/index.php?option=com_c...1&Item id=145

It appears that the maiden flight with the 21 meter wings took place on May 30, 2014!

Have they gotten around to obtaining an EASA type certificate for the 17B FES yet?

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 8:46:54 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
So Lak are producing a 21m tipped LAK 17B - so a glider you cn fly in 15,
18, and Open Class - will it be competetive in any?

I am looking at a very nice LAK-17A and a very nice ASW-27 (lot more $$). I heven't seen any LAK-17B's on the used market. For a low time new glider pilot (have a commercial glider add-on and CFIG rating, but no contest experience) looking for a fun, reasonably good performing glider would the 17A be much of a downgrade from the 17B if I go the LAK route?

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 1:24:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 8:46:54 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
So Lak are producing a 21m tipped LAK 17B - so a glider you cn fly in 15,
18, and Open Class - will it be competetive in any?

I am looking at a very nice LAK-17A and a very nice ASW-27 (lot more $$). I heven't seen any LAK-17B's on the used market. For a low time new glider pilot (have a commercial glider add-on and CFIG rating, but no contest experience) looking for a fun, reasonably good performing glider would the 17A be much of a downgrade from the 17B if I go the LAK route?

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, KEN wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 1:24:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 8:46:54 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
So Lak are producing a 21m tipped LAK 17B - so a glider you cn fly in 15,
18, and Open Class - will it be competetive in any?

I am looking at a very nice LAK-17A and a very nice ASW-27 (lot more $$). I heven't seen any LAK-17B's on the used market. For a low time new glider pilot (have a commercial glider add-on and CFIG rating, but no contest experience) looking for a fun, reasonably good performing glider would the 17A be much of a downgrade from the 17B if I go the LAK route?

Two used LAK-17B FES on http://www.segelflug.de/osclass/inde...&sCategory=139 (also one 17a).

Dan

I put 600+ hours on my LAK-17a before selling it and it was the best
flying ship I've ever flown. I've also got over 600 hours in the LS-6a
which is also a superb flying ship.

Since I'm not a contest pilot, I can't say how it would perform against
a '27 though I've beaten them and been beaten by them, as well. It's
the pilot, not the ship, that wins contests anyway. You will get more
pleasure for your dollar than any other plastic glider I can think of.

On 8/1/2016 7:08 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, KEN wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 1:24:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 8:46:54 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
So Lak are producing a 21m tipped LAK 17B - so a glider you cn fly in 15,
18, and Open Class - will it be competetive in any?
I am looking at a very nice LAK-17A and a very nice ASW-27 (lot more $$). I heven't seen any LAK-17B's on the used market. For a low time new glider pilot (have a commercial glider add-on and CFIG rating, but no contest experience) looking for a fun, reasonably good performing glider would the 17A be much of a downgrade from the 17B if I go the LAK route?
Two used LAK-17B FES on http://www.segelflug.de/osclass/inde...&sCategory=139 (also one 17a).

Dan

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Dan, 5J

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 10:05:14 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
I put 600+ hours on my LAK-17a before selling it and it was the best
flying ship I've ever flown. I've also got over 600 hours in the LS-6a
which is also a superb flying ship.

Since I'm not a contest pilot, I can't say how it would perform against
a '27 though I've beaten them and been beaten by them, as well. It's
the pilot, not the ship, that wins contests anyway. You will get more
pleasure for your dollar than any other plastic glider I can think of.

On 8/1/2016 7:08 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, KEN wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 1:24:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 8:46:54 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
So Lak are producing a 21m tipped LAK 17B - so a glider you cn fly in 15,
18, and Open Class - will it be competetive in any?
I am looking at a very nice LAK-17A and a very nice ASW-27 (lot more $$). I heven't seen any LAK-17B's on the used market. For a low time new glider pilot (have a commercial glider add-on and CFIG rating, but no contest experience) looking for a fun, reasonably good performing glider would the 17A be much of a downgrade from the 17B if I go the LAK route?
Two used LAK-17B FES on http://www.segelflug.de/osclass/inde...&sCategory=139 (also one 17a).

Dan

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Dan, 5J

Agree with Dan (5J) 100%. I have a 17b FES and it is an excellent flying ship and a great value for the money. I have flown with Dan as he flew his 17a and also with another local 17a at Moriarty and they are really outstanding performers (the pilots were also fairly "decent") and they too are an excellent value for the money. Now, there are only a few 17b gliders in the US and I have yet to see an FES version come up for sale (as the owners are apparently pretty happy), so a 17a would be an excellent choice and there are (I believe) two 17a ships currently for sale in the US on Wings & Wheels (one at Moriarty). If you want a sustainer, on W&W there is also a 17aT and a 17bT advertised. Thx - Renny