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Diana-2: is there a serial number >3?
Tim: I have correspondence from HpH stating that they are not making
the 304S in 15m, and have no plans to, and that that the 304SE is a "drawing only". Ergo, my original statement is completely true(assuming of course that the factory have not changed their mind). 2NO (Gollywomper II on order) |
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Diana-2: is there a serial number >3?
Having spoken directly to HpH the comment there was that of the gliders sold
to day (something near 20 at this point) none had been sold with 15M wingtips but if there was interest enough they would still be able to offer them as an option, though none had been made or tested at this time. The 304s is designed optimally as an 18M glider and shortening the span and reducing performance isn't what most are looking for...the 304SE would be the glider for those who still want a 15M glider, but it will not be convertible to 18M..this glider is still planned but will be offered sometime at a later date .... So if there are enough orders for 304s with optional 15m wingtips (all will still be sold as 18M gliders) I'm sure HpH will make the option available....but for a serious 15M racer the 304SE is the glider. tim Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com "Tuno" wrote in message oups.com... Tim: I have correspondence from HpH stating that they are not making the 304S in 15m, and have no plans to, and that that the 304SE is a "drawing only". Ergo, my original statement is completely true(assuming of course that the factory have not changed their mind). 2NO (Gollywomper II on order) |
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Diana-2: is there a serial number >3?
Schleicher are developing the ASH 30 Mi which will have 26.5 M
wingspan and has better high speed creuise, though the wing loading is still not as high as say 15 or 18 m ships. The EB28 is already flying and has better performance than the ASH 25. I find it intriguing that the Diana-2 has such high performance at low speeds, that it matches the 18m ships in slow max LD glide and probably kills them heavily ballasted at high speeds. It's probably better than any open ship loaded at high speed as well. One of the reasons is because it can load it's wings to 58KG per SQ M - which is higher than any ship I am aware of. Until other manufacturers go to sparless wings, the Diana-2 will retain this advantage, IMHO. I found it interesting to read recently that the very first glass ship - the Phoenix - was also a sparless design and was light as a feather as well. In those days, it was thought that the better the ship climbed the faster it went cross country. The Phoenix never had any structural issues and was a sound design. So really, the Diana-2 is just back to the beginning and nothing new. Wish I could afford one..............in my dreams I can.......... |
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Diana-2: is there a serial number >3?
tommytoyz wrote:
So really, the Diana-2 is just back to the beginning and nothing new. Wish I could afford one..............in my dreams I can.......... I think they're just beautiful in their sorta-weird way. With that tiny boom and the kinda clunky looking empennage and the ellipse wing. It really is a sexy machine. My problem is two-fold. Not enough dough to spend right now... and at 6'3" and 230#, they say I would need some olive oil and a shoehorn to get in and outtta one. O_o -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...aring/200706/1 |
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Diana-2: is there a serial number >3?
"at 6'3" and 230#, they say I would need some olive oil and a shoehorn
to get in and outtta one." I don't think that is necessarily true. It is wider at the shoulders than even the Ventus 2b. It does have a more prone position than most gliders though. If I read correctly, the stick position can be made to accommodate the new owner's body and arm length. I think Bill put it that the most important factor is the length of your body, relative from your tailbone to your head. So should someone be as tall as you, but have relatively short legs, that's where the fitting problems are in the Diana-2. If you have broad shoulders, it shouldn't be more of a problem than in any other ship, as the Diana-2 is wider than several. I sat - or rather laid - in it, and I like it. I love the side stick and can only imagine it being very relaxing to fly. Also love the very large DG style canopy. Maybe some day........... |
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"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in message news:73f4603c98205@uwe... tommytoyz wrote: So really, the Diana-2 is just back to the beginning and nothing new. Wish I could afford one..............in my dreams I can.......... I think they're just beautiful in their sorta-weird way. With that tiny boom and the kinda clunky looking empennage and the ellipse wing. I think it looks a lot like a T-tail version of Dick Schreder's RS-15. http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/RS-15/C-GPUB.html |
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tommytoyz wrote:
"at 6'3" and 230#, they say I would need some olive oil and a shoehorn to get in and outtta one." I don't think that is necessarily true. It is wider at the shoulders than even the Ventus 2b. It does have a more prone position than most gliders though. If I read correctly, the stick position can be made to accommodate the new owner's body and arm length. Thanks for that. I have yet to even see one at the field. Would love a chance to take one out for a ride... oil/shoehorn or not. ; ) -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...aring/200706/1 |
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Diana-2: is there a serial number 3?
On Jun 19, 9:00 am, Dan G wrote:
On Jun 19, 4:31 am, "BlueCumulus" wrote: Do you need a better reference? Look up reference in a dictionary, then come back and give us one. Quite by chance I've found one myself: "DISTURBING NEWS ABOUT THE DIANA 2 Czech Republic pilot, Hana Zejdova who has set some 26 world records has just upgraded to a new Diana 2. I have been informed that her sailplane has been grounded at Tocumwal, Australia. At certain speeds, it pulls in one direction, and has to be slowed down to straighten it up. The sailplane has other in-flight problems requiring attention. Australians that have flown the sailplane have been less than impressed with its handling qualities." http://www.glidingmagazine.com/NewsArticle.asp?id=1605 , posted July 4 2007. That's sufficiently different from what's been posted here for me to be sure that it isn't simply based on this thread. So yes, it does indeed look like that at least one Diana 2 has big problems. Dan |
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