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pervect wrote:
"Reconstruction" is apparently not reconstructing very much at the moment (almost no power in Iraq, water shortages, etc. from an article I recently read) That's what you get for trusting journalists... Or do you *really* expect such a large task to be accomplished in time for the 6 o'clock news? D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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In message , Derek Lyons
writes pervect wrote: "Reconstruction" is apparently not reconstructing very much at the moment (almost no power in Iraq, water shortages, etc. from an article I recently read) That's what you get for trusting journalists... Or do you *really* expect such a large task to be accomplished in time for the 6 o'clock news? Issues like "25% of Basra still without running water"... true, except those houses were never plumbed in the first place! Putting water back in the pipes is one job, building pipes that weren't there before is a bigger step. The idea that every Iraqi household enjoyed plentiful clean, pure water; magnificent sanitation; and ample electrical power; just ain't so. -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote: Issues like "25% of Basra still without running water"... true, except those houses were never plumbed in the first place! Putting water back in the pipes is one job, building pipes that weren't there before is a bigger step. The idea that every Iraqi household enjoyed plentiful clean, pure water; magnificent sanitation; and ample electrical power; just ain't so. Power generation in Iraq is equal, right now, to the peak before the war, and by the summer they're planning on about a 50% increase, while revamping the distribution system. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... pervect wrote: "Reconstruction" is apparently not reconstructing very much at the moment (almost no power in Iraq, water shortages, etc. from an article I recently read) That's what you get for trusting journalists... Or do you *really* expect such a large task to be accomplished in time for the 6 o'clock news? Even more funny--IIRC the power output and distribution capability surpassed that of pre-OIF Iraq a couple of months back. Brooks D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:56:55 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote: Well, it could slip a few million dollars to a charismatic religious leader to carry out terrorist attacks on New York City. It could also develop weapons of mass destruciton, or pretend to be doing so. And it could buy billions of dollars of weaponry and associated materials from France, Germany, and Russia, so as to keep those countries in its pocket. And it could end up ****ing the Americans off to the point where they launch an invasion, kick the crap out of its army, seize control of the country, and end up dragging its leader out of a hole in the ground. So the above doesn't seem to have been exactly a winning strategy :P -- "Sore wa himitsu desu." To reply by email, remove the small snack from address. http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallace |
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"Damien R. Sullivan" wrote in message ... (Derek Lyons) wrote: "Jarg" wrote: An interesting if, but the Soviets, though at an apparent disadvantage, weren't faced with such overwhelming military power, and had a history of successfully repelling invaders. The Russians could, and on multiple occasions did, trade space for time, forcing the invader endure their winter. No other nation shares this unique combination of vast space for mobilty with climactic advantages. Canada? The original question was about a "mid-tier" country; didn't specify whether that meant tech level or size or population or what. I'm told North Korea did something similar in the Korean War, despite having much less space. Withdraw, leading US forces up into a valley, and counter-attack with forces and winter. Not a very accurate example. The DPRK did NOT lure US forces northwards--they instead were sent reeling northward (they had no other direction to run). They were saved from outright annihilation by the timely intervention of the PLA, which apparently did not intend to enter the fray unless UN forces approached the Yalu. Some indications are that the PLA even tried to signal the UN, and MacArthur, of their intent in an effort to get him to stop short of the Yalu. In the end the DPRK did nothing much in terms of a CATK--that was the screaming hordes of the PLA. What DPRK forces that remained (either dead or already in UN PW camps) would have to lick their wounds for a while before reentering the combat picture in any forcable manner. Brooks snip strange what-if's |
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"Damien R. Sullivan" wrote in message ... I'm told North Korea did something similar in the Korean War, despite having much less space. Withdraw, leading US forces up into a valley, and counter-attack with forces and winter. Not exactly, they were routed and withdrawing in a panic when the Chinese intervened, it was the army of the PRC that launched the counterattack. Keith |
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On 2004/01/18 10:05, in article , "Damien
R. Sullivan" wrote: Basically, can a small or lower-tech democracy with non-corrupt government and motivated citizenry make invasion too expensive to work? Possibly not today, but back in 1776.... Jack |
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