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Peter J Ross wrote in
: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 at 03:28 GMT, Bertie the Bunyip wrote in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk: "Tarver Engineering" wrote in : "John Mazor" wrote in message ... "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Tarver Engineering" wrote in : "Phil Miller" wrote in message news Hey Splappy, Do you remember this series of pronouncements; From: "Tarver Engineering" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military Subject: Do Hercules military aircraft use the same fuel as civilian aircraft? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:37 -0800 snip wrote in message Not really. On the T56 engine TIT = (T)urbine (I)nlet (T)empreture. Yes really, on every jet engine TIT is Total Inlet Temperature. Yep. Nope. Once again, Tarver goes TITs up. Once again the Bunyip has been mazored. Nice troll though. I'm an excellent troll, actually. Bertie Nah, you're crap! ;-) But what's this rec.aviation.military froup? How can anything military be merely recreational? You must have been out of circualtion. Check out the war in Iraq thing.. Bertie |
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"JL Grasso" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:55:11 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: snip The term "total" has to do with the use of multiple probes. Wiring thermocoulpes in seris gives a Total temperature. Where the probes are wired in parallel, a Totalizer is used downstream to add the thermocouple outputs together. Why do you post, Grasso, when it is clear that there is no subject WRT aircraft that you know? Perhaps you would do better sticking to your parts catalogs and forget about pretending you understand anything about aircraft. Otherwise, you are likely to become a hazard to aviation. You're the Wierd Al Yankovic of technology. I am an engineer with a masters degree and you are a clueless loser, Jerry. |
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"Phil Miller" wrote in message news Do you feel better now, Phil? Having proven once again that you are a clueless git? |
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Rick wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote: Yep, the individually wired theromcouples are sent to a Totalizer, when they are not wired in series. That is why the datum is a total. Yeah, OK, so in Tarverworld the temperature of the gas entering the turbine is around 18,000 degrees C. Roughly the surface temperature of a Class B star. Considering titanium boils at 3,278C, could this be ... magic metallurgy? g, d & r |George /------------------------------------------------------------\ | George Ruch | | "Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?" | \------------------------------------------------------------/ |
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George Ruch wrote:
Yeah, OK, so in Tarverworld the temperature of the gas entering the turbine is around 18,000 degrees C. Roughly the surface temperature of a Class B star. Considering titanium boils at 3,278C, could this be ... magic metallurgy? g, d & r It does seem a bit warm for a turbine but Tarver says the thermocouples are wired in series so that they add up to the "total inlet temperature." And Tarver couldn't be wrong could he? Rick |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ... "Phil Miller" wrote in message news Do you feel better now, Phil? Having proven once again that you are a clueless git? Lockheed has used some version/model of the Allison T-56 since "1956" on all C-130 models. Yes it is called a Allison T-56 because it was a "56 model Allison Turbine Engine". The same year the C-130 first flew at/from Marietta, Ga. There have been numerous improvements made to this basic engine design over the years to incorporate new technology, increase power, etc., but the basic design remains the same. The "T 56-15 Model Allison Engine" referred to by Phil, means a Allison T-56 engine incorporating the 15 th update. Check the model # of the Allison T-56 engine used on the C-130J. If you do a little checking, you will find the T-56-15 engine was used on late C130 E & G models. Tarver you claim to be an "Electrical Engineer". Don't you know better than to argue with a person quoting the manual on a given/specified item? Apparently not. Ralph Nesbitt Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:14:42 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote: "Phil Miller" wrote in message news Do you feel better now, Phil? Yeah, sure do Splappy. I've been too busy to read any of your crap since about August last year. It's been nice to have a good old fashioned belly laugh again, and it's also reassuring to know that there is some consistency in the world. Having proven once again that you are a clueless git? Oh yeah, sure. Me, the official maintenance manual all other posters at ram and ada and let's face it, just about everyone but you is wrong. See what I mean about consistency? We are all lunes [sic]. You, on your own, have the truth. Bwahahahaha... Phil -- Great Tarverisms #2 What is the best selling beer in Oz? Budweiser. Another illusion shattered. John alt.disasters.aviation 18 August 2002 |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ... "JL Grasso" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:57:34 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Tarver Engineering" wrote in : "Phil Miller" wrote in message news Hey Splappy, Do you remember this series of pronouncements; From: "Tarver Engineering" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military Subject: Do Hercules military aircraft use the same fuel as civilian aircraft? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:37 -0800 snip wrote in message Not really. On the T56 engine TIT = (T)urbine (I)nlet (T)empreture. Yes really, on every jet engine TIT is Total Inlet Temperature. Yep. Nope. Yep, the individually wired theromcouples are sent to a Totalizer, when they are not wired in series. That is why the datum is a total. One has to wonder if the trolls of ram will ever catch a clue. The irony of it all. Total Air Temperature (TAT)is the maximum temperature attainable by air when brought to rest adiabatically. Total Air Temperature is the total of several probes at the inlet of the engine. (ie T1) The word "Total", when used to describe the type of temperature reading that a probe is reporting, has nothing to do with totalizers or wiring connections. The term "total" has to do with the use of multiple probes. Wiring thermocoulpes in seris gives a Total temperature. Where the probes are wired in parallel, a Totalizer is used downstream to add the thermocouple outputs together. Hey, Splaps. Next time you are ever near a DADC or it's diagram, check out what they have at the other end of the tubing connected to the fitting labeled *TOTAL*. Only ONE pitot tube! Jimmy |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 05:57:36 GMT, "Ralph Nesbitt"
wrote: "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ... "Phil Miller" wrote in message news Do you feel better now, Phil? Having proven once again that you are a clueless git? Lockheed has used some version/model of the Allison T-56 since "1956" on all C-130 models. Yes it is called a Allison T-56 because it was a "56 model Allison Turbine Engine". The same year the C-130 first flew at/from Marietta, Ga. There have been numerous improvements made to this basic engine design over the years to incorporate new technology, increase power, etc., but the basic design remains the same. The "T 56-15 Model Allison Engine" referred to by Phil, means a Allison T-56 engine incorporating the 15 th update. Check the model # of the Allison T-56 engine used on the C-130J. If you do a little checking, you will find the T-56-15 engine was used on late C130 E & G models. Tarver you claim to be an "Electrical Engineer". Don't you know better than to argue with a person quoting the manual on a given/specified item? Apparently not. But, Ralph. The manuals wrong. Splappy say so. Bwahahahaha! Is there a problem with your email account? Sent you one today and it bounced. Phil -- Great Tarverisms #1 The Air Speed Indicator (ASI) shows You made that up, didn't you? The IAS indicator says IAS, not ASI. Why do you come here pretending to know something when you don't even know the words? John |
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