Pilots Arrested for Disability Payments

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050719/...ility_payments

"Hilton" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050719/...ility_payments



"Forty pilots were arrested after an investigation found they were licensed
to fly but were receiving Social Security disability payments for a variety
of illnesses, federal officials said. "

Sigh!!!

Nah...let's not go there!

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:42:25 GMT, "Hilton"
wrote:
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So much for only using the information to find terrorists.

They can't FIND the terrorists. So they arrest who is convenient. Law
enforcement works this way.

Take the Jon Benet murder. They couldn't find the murderer, so who did
they arrest? The JOURNALISTS!

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. If only they could check the
rest of the people (besides just pilots) collecting the handouts.

Hilton wrote:
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Doug wrote:

They can't FIND the terrorists. So they arrest who is convenient. Law
enforcement works this way.

Take the Jon Benet murder. They couldn't find the murderer, so who did
they arrest? The JOURNALISTS!

kontiki wrote:
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. If only they could check the
rest of the people (besides just pilots) collecting the handouts.

Hilton wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050719/...ility_payments



There are agencies that police handout programs. A good friend of mine
used to be an investigator for the Dep't of Health & Human Services and
most of what he did were Medicare cases.

In a previous article, Richard Riley said:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:42:25 GMT, "Hilton"
wrote:

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OK, some of the conditions listed - like schiz or a heart condition -
would disqualify you from a medical. But a bad back? I think some of
these guys are going to walk away from this one. If their AME knew

Call me a wooly headed liberal, but if you're receiving disability
payments, should you be, like, disabled or something? If your bad back
doesn't disqualify you from flying, it doesn't disqualify you from working
a desk job or driving a truck either.

Disability payments are supposed to be a safety net, not a hammock.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"But what...is it good for?"
--Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM commenting on
the microchip, 1968.

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"Doug" wrote in message
oups.com...
They can't FIND the terrorists. So they arrest who is convenient. Law
enforcement works this way.

Take the Jon Benet murder. They couldn't find the murderer, so who did
they arrest? The JOURNALISTS!

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Doug, Doug, Doug.....in the JBR case, they have yet to establish that it was
a murder, let alone arrest anyone. White, the journalist that you
mentioned, was a close friend of John's and was at the home on the night
that the body was discovered. He turned against the Ramsey's and led the
charge to have a Special Prosecutor appointed. He was also the target of an
accusation of child sexual abuse in California. The police and the DA's
office have been at each other's throat's for years over this case .

Law enforcement works this way, and I can tell you from the perspective of
having worn a badge and gun to work for a long time: Crimes are solved in
two ways, the old fashioned way and the high tech way. The old fashioned
way is for someone to tell you what happened. In the high tech way, someone
calls you on the phone and tells you what happened. The JOURNALIST that you
mentioned plead guilty to a charge of failure to answer a subpoena on a
Ramsey-related case. He didn't think that he had anything important to say
to the judge so he just didn't go.....he received an invitation to a party
and didn't RSVP. That's a no-no in the court system and judges take it as
an affront.

Before you cast aspersions on law enforcement in the general way in which
you did it, get your facts straight. The JBR case has already cost a whole
pile of money and there are other crimes to solve out there.

Stephen
Foley, Alabama

Go to the Feds site ,
It list names and ages and has alittle more about the investigation. The
kicker will be....1. Lied on FAA medical or lied to SSDI. 2. Every 2 years
you have to do a survey for SSDI and report your doctors visits,..all of
them! it has a question on it that states,..have you spoken to your doctor
about working, does you doctor feel you can return to work?
Being disabled does not mean you can not fly, but if you are disabled I
do not see how you can fly for hire. Amputees fly airplanes , can they get a
commercial cert?
There's no way I could pass the commercial medical exam,...NO WAY! Does that
mean I can't fly around the patch for alittle on a good day? I can operate a
motor vehicle on the highway, why can't I fly a plane?
SSDI rules say you can work a part time job if you do not make over such
and such amount,...but a commercial ticket says you can fly for hire. They
don't hand out medicals with only able to fly for hire part time on them do
they?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech



"Richard Riley" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:55:40 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

:In a previous article, Richard Riley said:
:On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:42:25 GMT, "Hilton"
:wrote:
:
::http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050719/...ility_payments
:
:OK, some of the conditions listed - like schiz or a heart condition -
:would disqualify you from a medical. But a bad back? I think some of
:these guys are going to walk away from this one. If their AME knew
:
:Call me a wooly headed liberal, but if you're receiving disability
ayments, should you be, like, disabled or something? If your bad back
:doesn't disqualify you from flying, it doesn't disqualify you from
working
:a desk job or driving a truck either.
:
isability payments are supposed to be a safety net, not a hammock.

Let's say you have a back injury that 1) prevents you from lifting
anything and 2) keeps you from sittng or standing for more than 2
hours.

Most places won't hire you, because they're afraid you are going to
pick up a stapler, throw your back out completely, and they'll be on
the hook for workman's comp.

OTOH, there's a lot of flying you can do in 2 hours.

It's also not clear from the article, but some of these guys may have
gotten a 3 year third class medical before their injury.