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Does anyone use the Club Class?
Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class?
USA does not. We have the Sports Class, which allows any glider to enter, and another Sports Class (called, locally, the Club Class) which uses a restricted list of gliders that is different from the IGC Club Class list. In another thread, in response to a question about inclusion of the PW-5, Andreas said: "Sure - the only limit to CLub Class in Germany at the moment is the upper limit of 106 for the index." which makes me think that Germany doesn't run any IGC Club Class competitions. And then Martin reacted to Andreas by saying "Its the same in the UK...", which gives me the same impression about the UK. Three major gliding countries that don't use the IGC Club Class. It makes me wonder if anybody does. -Pat |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
It's like asking if any country uses the metric system of measurement!
All of them but the USA. Jim On Jan 28, 8:56*am, Pat Russell wrote: Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class? USA does not. * |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:56:08 -0800 (PST), Pat Russell
wrote: Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class? Yup... In another thread, in response to a question about inclusion of the PW-5, Andreas said: "Sure - the only limit to CLub Class in Germany at the moment is the upper limit of 106 for the index." which makes me think that Germany doesn't run any IGC Club Class competitions. Well... actually Germany does. In fact, Club Class is by far the most popular class in Germany. Here's the list of qualification competitions for the German nationals: http://www.daec-segelflug.de/quali/i...on=wbw_lst.php Please compare the sheer number of Club Class competitions to other classes. Three major gliding countries that don't use the IGC Club Class. It makes me wonder if anybody does. I think you got it wrong... Here's the link to the Club Class World gliding championchips 2009: http://www.wgcrieti.it/ Check out the nations that took part... Bye Andreas |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
On Jan 28, 9:07*am, JS wrote:
It's like asking if any country uses the metric system of measurement! * All of them but the USA. Jim On Jan 28, 8:56*am, Pat Russell wrote: Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class? USA does not. * The metric system was invented by the French. It's a matter of national pride. |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
On 28 Jan, 16:56, Pat Russell wrote:
Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class? USA does not. *We have the Sports Class, which allows any glider to enter, and another Sports Class (called, locally, the Club Class) which uses a restricted list of gliders that is different from the IGC Club Class list. In another thread, in response to a question about inclusion of the PW-5, Andreas said: "Sure - the only limit to CLub Class in Germany at the moment is the upper limit of 106 for the index." which makes me think that Germany doesn't run any IGC Club Class competitions. And then Martin reacted to Andreas by saying "Its the same in the UK...", which gives me the same impression about the UK. Three major gliding countries that don't use the IGC Club Class. *It makes me wonder if anybody does. -Pat Just about every country in the World runs Club Class competitions, except for the US. It's one of the most popular and highly competitive national competition in the UK. But then the USA insists on using imperial measurements, and even their gallons are different to the UK ones. Shows the effects of isolationism. Most countries have gone metric, and we have been buying motor fuel in litres for years in the UK. Derek Copeland |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
On Jan 28, 11:15*am, delboy wrote:
On 28 Jan, 16:56, Pat Russell wrote: Does any country run competitions in the IGC Club Class? USA does not. *We have the Sports Class, which allows any glider to enter, and another Sports Class (called, locally, the Club Class) which uses a restricted list of gliders that is different from the IGC Club Class list. In another thread, in response to a question about inclusion of the PW-5, Andreas said: "Sure - the only limit to CLub Class in Germany at the moment is the upper limit of 106 for the index." which makes me think that Germany doesn't run any IGC Club Class competitions. And then Martin reacted to Andreas by saying "Its the same in the UK...", which gives me the same impression about the UK. Three major gliding countries that don't use the IGC Club Class. *It makes me wonder if anybody does. -Pat Just about every country in the World runs Club Class competitions, except for the US. It's one of the most popular and highly competitive national competition in the UK. But then the USA insists on using imperial measurements, and even their gallons are different to the UK ones. Shows the effects of isolationism. Most countries have gone metric, and we have been buying motor fuel in litres for years in the UK. Derek Copeland- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The US tried to go metric in the early '80s.... No one cared.. it wasn't a big deal...it didn't work. It's not like no one here uses it.... it's everywhere. US..isolationist? |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
Wow, I guess I was really unclear in my original post. Sorry. Allow
me to re-phrase. My understanding is that a "class" is a set of gliders. Classes can be defined by describing the gliders that are allowed in the class or by naming the gliders that are allowed in the class. IGC, among others, defines classes. IGC use the first method for defining five classes and the second method for defining two classes, one of which is the Club Class. My question is: Are there any countries in the world that run national championships in the IGC-defined Club Class? Sorry it wasn't clear before. -Pat |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:46:06 -0800 (PST), Pat Russell
wrote: My question is: Are there any countries in the world that run national championships in the IGC-defined Club Class? Yup. Lots. |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
Pat Russell wrote:
My understanding is that a "class" is a set of gliders. Classes can be defined by describing the gliders that are allowed in the class or by naming the gliders that are allowed in the class. IGC, among others, defines classes. IGC use the first method for defining five classes and the second method for defining two classes, one of which is the Club Class. -Pat Read sc3 of the FAI sporting code (http://www.fai.org/gliding/sc3). Where does it "name" club class gliders? 7.7.6 Club Class The purpose of the Club Class is to preserve the value of older high performance gliders, to provide inexpensive but high quality international championships, and to enable pilots who do not have access to gliders of the highest standard of performance to take part in contests at the highest levels. a. ENTRY The only limitation on entry of a glider into a Club Class competition is that it is within the range of handicap factors agreed for the competition. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Does anyone use the Club Class?
Pete, thank you for your enlightening point. The gliders named in the
Sporting Code http://www.fai.org/gliding/sporting_code/sc3a , Appendix 3 define the Club Class for World and Continental Championships, only. Apparently, according to SC3 7.7.6a, any glider can be considered a Club Class glider, as long as it is acceptable to the local sanctioning authority. There is no mandatory relationship between the sets of gliders that are allowed in any pair of contests. They are all the Club Class. Thank you for pointing this out. The Club Class seems like more of a concept than a class. It sure is different from the others. I guess the USA Sports Class is the Club Class, after all. -Pat Read sc3 of the FAI sporting code (http://www.fai.org/gliding/sc3). Where does it "name" club class gliders? 7.7.6 Club Class The purpose of the Club Class is to preserve the value of older high performance gliders, to provide inexpensive but high quality international championships, and to enable pilots who do not have access to gliders of the highest standard of performance to take part in contests at the highest levels. a. ENTRY The only limitation on entry of a glider into a Club Class competition is that it is within the range of handicap factors agreed for the competition. |
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