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Old August 15th 20, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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Does anyone know more?

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...-winnipesaukee
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Old August 15th 20, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Agnew
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On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 8:28:39 PM UTC-4, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
Does anyone know more?

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...-winnipesaukee


Sounds more like an ultralight that is being misreported as a glider.

"The glider was about 1,000 feet above the bay when the engine stopped."

A quick search brought up another article that is a bit clearer.

https://patch.com/new-hampshire/conc...escued-boaters

"NH Marine Patrol Officers learned that the ultralight was approximately 1,000 feet above the bay when the engine stopped."

PA
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Old August 15th 20, 02:50 AM
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https://www.newscentermaine.com/vide...8-d2b9f8622326

Ultralight seaplane ? Sank in 60' of water. Sailplane would have floated .
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Old August 16th 20, 01:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.
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Old August 16th 20, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ultralight seaplane ? Sank in 60' of water. Sailplane would have floated


If you have to pronounce the name of the lake on the 911 call, you're sunk.

lake-winnipesaukee
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Old August 16th 20, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Stephen Szikora wrote on 8/15/2020 5:19 PM:
Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.

Nope! It was still an airplane, even though it was gliding, just as motorgliders
don't become airplanes when the engine is running; otherwise; you'd need a glider
license AND an SEL license to fly it :^)

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Old August 16th 20, 10:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Stephen Szikora wrote on 8/15/2020 5:19 PM:
Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.

Nope! It was still an airplane, even though it was gliding, just as motorgliders
don't become airplanes when the engine is running; otherwise; you'd need a glider
license AND an SEL license to fly it :^)

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- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1


That's what the FAA say, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.
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Old August 16th 20, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
john firth
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On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:19:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Stephen Szikora wrote on 8/15/2020 5:19 PM:
Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.

Nope! It was still an airplane, even though it was gliding, just as motorgliders
don't become airplanes when the engine is running; otherwise; you'd need a glider
license AND an SEL license to fly it :^)

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

That's what the FAA say, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.


Transport Canada have a more sensible attitude.
A motor is considered an alternative launch method.
You need a GPL and endorsement from an instructor
with SLS experience.
JMF
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Old August 16th 20, 06:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Another water landing?

john firth wrote on 8/16/2020 8:10 AM:
On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:19:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Stephen Szikora wrote on 8/15/2020 5:19 PM:
Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.

Nope! It was still an airplane, even though it was gliding, just as motorgliders
don't become airplanes when the engine is running; otherwise; you'd need a glider
license AND an SEL license to fly it :^)

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

That's what the FAA say, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.


Transport Canada have a more sensible attitude.
A motor is considered an alternative launch method.
You need a GPL and endorsement from an instructor
with SLS experience.
JMF

It's the same in the US.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
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Old August 16th 20, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Another water landing?

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:55:16 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
john firth wrote on 8/16/2020 8:10 AM:
On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:19:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Stephen Szikora wrote on 8/15/2020 5:19 PM:
Well, it was a glider once the engine stopped.

Nope! It was still an airplane, even though it was gliding, just as motorgliders
don't become airplanes when the engine is running; otherwise; you'd need a glider
license AND an SEL license to fly it :^)

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
That's what the FAA say, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.


Transport Canada have a more sensible attitude.
A motor is considered an alternative launch method.
You need a GPL and endorsement from an instructor
with SLS experience.
JMF

It's the same in the US.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1


In the US, a checkride is required in a 2-seat motorglider, even if the applicant has Glider and SEL ratings. That, in my opinion, makes no sense.
 




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