Meigs ...

And yet the prior poster was correct in stating that "most of the public
couldn't care less" because GA will be impacted, not the general public
flying commercial.

If Daley (and other mayors) have their way, GA won't be cluttering/slowing
operations at any airports.

Terry

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On 3 Oct 2004 08:51:55 -0700, (Pilot) wrote in
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The fact remains, we pilots/AC owners, are a small (less than 1% of
the general population) and have N O clout. That means, when an
airport such as Meigs is closed by Daley (or any mayor for that
matter) most of the public couldn't care less.


From the information contained in the news below, it seems Mr. Daley
has caused problems for O'Hare by closing Meigs field:


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AVflash Volume 10, Number 45b -- November 4, 2004

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RESTRICTIONS ON GA FLIGHT START AT MEIGS, EXPAND TO O'HARE
As new capacity limits on GA flights at Chicago's O'Hare
International Airport went into effect this week, the FAA released
a new study that says O'Hare must set its limits even lower in
order to avoid gridlock. GA operations as of this week are limited
to four per hour between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. The new study says
O'Hare can handle just 190 to 200 arrivals and departures per
hour, fewer than a 2001 study that recommended a maximum of 200 to
202 flights per hour. When visibility is poor, the maximum should
go down to 136 to 144 per hour, the FAA said. The National
Business Aviation Association (NBAA) has blamed the O'Hare
problems on the closure of Meigs Field, which used to
accommodate more than 20,000 operations per year. Corporate
charter operators now must wait until 72 hours before their flight
to schedule a takeoff or landing at O'Hare.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#188475


But, as you noted above, his decision to close Meigs field has now
negatively impacted GA operations at O'Hare airport.

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:42:43 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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And yet the prior poster was correct in stating that "most of the public
couldn't care less" because GA will be impacted, not the general public
flying commercial.

The flying public has no authority over airport operations of which
I'm aware.

If Daley (and other mayors) have their way, GA won't be cluttering/slowing
operations at any airports.

If I recall correctly, the FAA agreement required for AIP funds
requires all flights to be treated equally.

Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..

If Daley (and other mayors) have their way, GA won't be cluttering/slowing
operations at any airports.

If I recall correctly, the FAA agreement required for AIP funds
requires all flights to be treated equally.

I'm not sure if the restriction comes from the FAA or Chicago, but
they probably can get away with it. Since the number of commercial
airline operations were restricted at ORD earlier this year, it would
not necessarily be discriminatory to restrict GA as well. Whether or
not the levels of restriction are equal is open to debate.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban wrote:


I'm not sure if the restriction comes from the FAA or Chicago,

It comes from FAA because Chicago wouldn't fix it.


but
they probably can get away with it. Since the number of commercial
airline operations were restricted at ORD earlier this year, it would
not necessarily be discriminatory to restrict GA as well. Whether or
not the levels of restriction are equal is open to debate.

GA has many other places to go in or near Chicago.

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:38:22 -0700, Newps wrote
in ::


GA has many other places to go in or near Chicago.

That is beside the point. If the city of Chicago is in violation of
their AIP agreement, they are subject to fine. If the FAA is not
enforcing the terms of the agreement, they are also subject to legal
action.

"Newps" wrote in message
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John Galban wrote:


I'm not sure if the restriction comes from the FAA or Chicago,

It comes from FAA because Chicago wouldn't fix it.

Actually it was left to the airlines which did nothing forcing the FAA to
step in.

I gotta digest that one. Let's see, "The flying public has no authority over
airport operations of which I'm aware."

And the tooth fairy will be by tomorrow, Santa in tow, with the Easter
Bunny.


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:42:43 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
::

And yet the prior poster was correct in stating that "most of the public
couldn't care less" because GA will be impacted, not the general public
flying commercial.

The flying public has no authority over airport operations of which
I'm aware.

If Daley (and other mayors) have their way, GA won't be cluttering/slowing
operations at any airports.

If I recall correctly, the FAA agreement required for AIP funds
requires all flights to be treated equally.