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Old May 23rd 16, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It is spelled out right in the FARs and 61.303 even provides a graph:

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieve....2#sp14.2.61.j

If you are have a Recreational or greater in one category (Private, Commercial, ATP) you may receive additional training from an instructor leading to an endorsement which would allow you to take a proficiency check as described under 61.321 with a separate instructor. There is no examiner required but they should follow the Practical Test Standards to ensure you are qualified and they must endorse your logbook and complete an 8710 application which is sent to the FAA. You should receive a new license the first time this is done that will list Sport Pilot Privileges but no category/class since this is in your logbook and could include airplane, glider, rotorcraft (gyro - no heli), lighter than air, weightshift or powered parachute.

As far as your current license having sport privileges, it is the same as any other license. Just because someone has a Commercial Airplane doesn't mean they can't revert to Private privileges if they now only have a Third Class Medical and are not flying for hire. If you have a Private, you can operate as a Sport Pilot in any category/class you are licensed. If you are not licensed in that category/class then you take the additional training, proficiency check with second instructor, endorsement and application sent to the FAA.

If you are a private glider pilot then you would only need a self launch endorsement to operate a selflaunch sailplane such as a Pipistrel or Phoenix. I don't know of any good reason to go for a Sport Pilot Glider, other than the possible workaround some are seeking for transition pilots that are not current in a previously rated class.

If you are a licensed glider pilot and would like to fly an airplane such as a J3 or FlightDesign and have no desire to fly at night, then a Sport Pilot Add On for airplane is a great option. I do however see the AOPA proposal to do away with medicals for the majority of GA being approved soon in lieu of using a drivers license and self certifying being approved shortly, so if that is the main reason you would consider a light sport, you may want to go consider a Private License.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...eauthorization

The biggest caveat is that if operating as a sport pilot in a class that requires a medical otherwise (airplane), you may not act as PIC if your last medical was denied. I believe this is how the new medical reform will be as well.

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...ots/response3/
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Old May 24th 16, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The Portland FSDO is wrong.
You have Pvt glider which includes LSA glider aircraft, to include a self launch glider with a self launch endorsement.
Pay attention to the differences between endorsement and rating.

Additional LSA ratings, such as powered parachute, weight shift ultralight, or Piper J3 cub requires the Two CFI and an 8710-11 filed with OKC.
I believe you will need to fly the additional LSA aircraft with the 10,000 MSL and other LSA limitations.

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Old May 24th 16, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Yup, what BillT said. By the way, I have done this process on both my pilot and instructor certificates, and I'm now an LSA ASEL pilot as well as an instructor. So I can assure that it works.

Your glider self-launch endorsement is irrelevant. You would do exactly the same process if you didn't have it.

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Old May 24th 16, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I am a Private Glider rated pilot with 2000 hours in Lambada and Phoenix Motorgliders. Specifically, can someone recommend where I can go to work with the two CFI's to get the LSA airplane endorsement? Seems that the local CFI's aren't convinced this is possible.

Thanks for a recommendation. I'm in Virginia but ready to travel.

Jeff
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Old May 24th 16, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Have a look at this site, narrow search options to instructors.
Jim

http://airplanepilot.sportaviationce...pilot-locator/
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Old May 24th 16, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Note that you do have to do the proficiency check in an LSA airplane. A motorglider won't do.

For me, this involved getting a taildragger endorsement as well -- about 10 hours of training was involved.

Lynn
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Old May 25th 16, 02:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:03:11 UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
I am a Private Glider rated pilot with 2000 hours in Lambada and Phoenix Motorgliders. Specifically, can someone recommend where I can go to work with the two CFI's to get the LSA airplane endorsement? Seems that the local CFI's aren't convinced this is possible.

Thanks for a recommendation. I'm in Virginia but ready to travel.

Jeff


b. Self-launching Gliders. Aircraft that have been certificated as gliders with self-launching capability cannot be used for a practical test for an airplane category. There are no dual airplane/glider category designations. The designee can determine the category of an aircraft by examining the aircraft airworthiness certificate or Type Certificate Data Sheet (TCDS).
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Old October 2nd 18, 09:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I plan to get an LSA add on. Talked to a couple of CFIs in SF Bay Area and they are confused about the rules. Can somebody provide specific pointers to support two-CFIs endorsements path?

Thank you
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Old October 2nd 18, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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FAR 61.303. Look at the sixth line down in the table (assuming you hold a US Driver's License. It refers to 61.321, which documents the endorsements required.

As I said before, I have done this path. It works.

The hardest part is to submit the required form at the end to report the endorsement to the FAA. When I did it, it couldn't be done via IACRA. Instead, you need to submit for 8710-11. Note the -11 at the end; you can't use a regular 8710. Google it and CAREFULLY follow the instructions for the form.

Lynn Alley
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Old October 3rd 18, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Valentin Mayamsin
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Thank you Lynn,

After reading FAR 61.303 about 10 times I now understand it. Your help appreciated.

-Val
 




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