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Old June 29th 20, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

Actually, his suspension is over, was given before the first of the year and occurred mostly during the virus shut-down time.
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Old June 29th 20, 02:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate



So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????



That is correct. read FAR 91.119 (c):

"Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

Like I said, everyone who has ever been down a ridge with a "structure" or a "person" on it has violated this section. Most don't get caught . . . Some do.

ROY
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Old June 29th 20, 11:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate


At 01:05 29 June 2020, Roy B. wrote:


So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????


That is correct. read FAR 91.119 (c):

"Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may
operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:


(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above
the
surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In
those
cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any
person,
vessel, vehicle, or structure.

Like I said, everyone who has ever been down a ridge with a
"structure" or
a "person" on it has violated this section. Most don't get caught . . .
Some do.

ROY

In the UK we have a get out clause

The Civil Aviation Authority permits, under SERA.3105 and
SERA.5005(f) a glider to fly below 150 metres (500 feet) above the
ground or water or closer than 150 metres (500 feet) to any
person, vessel, vehicle or structure if it is hill-soaring.

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?
catid=1&pagetype=65&appid=11&mode=detail&id=7417

Stephen






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Old June 29th 20, 01:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 7:43:12 PM UTC-5, Delta8 wrote:
Roy B.;t policy ended a few years ago.

To restate what KS said, the only difference between us and Bruno is that Bruno got caught. I got caught too (low level flying in a J3 Cub within 500' of a Park Ranger I never saw). s.

ROY[/QUOTE Wrote:


So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????





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Delta8


Gotta watch out for those "pesky park rangers, Yogi".
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Old June 29th 20, 02:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Roy B.
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

Gotta watch out for those "pesky park rangers, Yogi".


Well BooBoo, that's one answer. But smaller registration numbers on the Cub would have helped, too.
ROY
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Old June 29th 20, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 9:31:51 AM UTC-4, Roy B. wrote:
Gotta watch out for those "pesky park rangers, Yogi".


Well BooBoo, that's one answer. But smaller registration numbers on the Cub would have helped, too.
ROY


Or a faster airplane :-).

T8
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Old June 30th 20, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dennis Cavagnaro
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

Bruno was never in a position to go to jail! There was no crime In either case just violations. And if you think Boeing has gotten off easy then you must not have owned any of their stock.

DC
  #38  
Old July 1st 20, 08:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:46:20 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
I searched and did not find that this topic was already posted on RAS.

Here's the video that documents the infraction https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ure=emb_lo go

Here's Bruno's recent comment:

2 weeks ago
Update 10 months later: I uploaded this video and 4 days later had over 200k views. The video got reported and the FAA had serious concerns with this performance/flight. Lesson learned: Don't fly any kind of performance for any group or crowd (even if asked by the airshow management and cleared through the airboss) if you are NOT an approved airshow performer (have something called a SAC card)!!! The FAA will surely come after you with violations. The end result for me: $$ thousands spent on legal fees and I will soon be taking a 7 month break from flying. I was told I was very luck to not lose my license over this. Yikes! Why am I sharing all this? I only had good intentions of showing what a glider is capable of doing, but I am not a trained airshow performer and I didn't know the rules for airshow performances. If in doubt - don't do it! I hope this will help other pilots to not have to go through what I have over the last 10 months. Cheers and stay safe! Bruno - B4


I'm a bit confused.... I recently read a post from a performer at that airshow who stated that the airshow was over and that Bruno was asked to take a tow, fly around and then land and that no aerobatics was even discussed.
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Old July 1st 20, 08:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Listen to the audio again. Note the radio call when he's encouraged to keep going by the airshow boss.


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Old July 2nd 20, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 1:59:14 PM UTC-6, Paul Agnew wrote:
Listen to the audio again. Note the radio call when he's encouraged to keep going by the airshow boss.


Perhaps the 'legal' issue was that the airshow NOTAM had expired. I believe Bruno was aware of this prior to his flight.
 




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