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Old September 2nd 07, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ian
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Anyone know any more about this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/6975317.stm

Ian (in Scotland)

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Old September 3rd 07, 08:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Only what is in the news:

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...20261998&hl=en

Extremely sad, and I wish the injured pilot a full and speedy
recovery.


Dan

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Old September 3rd 07, 06:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ian
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On 3 Sep, 08:52, Dan G wrote:
Only what is in the news:

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...utf-8&ncl=1120...

Extremely sad, and I wish the injured pilot a full and speedy
recovery.
Dan


Thanks. I've also heard through another route that the glider was the
Scottish Gliding Association ASH-25, SSC.

Ian

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Old September 3rd 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ian wrote:
On 3 Sep, 08:52, Dan G wrote:
Only what is in the news:

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...utf-8&ncl=1120...

Extremely sad, and I wish the injured pilot a full and speedy
recovery.
Dan


Thanks. I've also heard through another route that the glider was the
Scottish Gliding Association ASH-25, SSC.

There's also a report in the Scotsman, not quoted here so far as I'm
aware, that adds some minor details:

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1399822007

It mentions another crash, this time on launch at Welland and also on
Sunday.


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Old September 3rd 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The link I posted above no longer works. However, the name of the
pilot has now been released:

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news...661329.0.0.php

All our thoughts are with his family, I'm sure.


Dan

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Old September 3rd 07, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan G
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On Sep 3, 8:21 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote:
It mentions another crash, this time on launch at Welland and also on
Sunday.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/n...re/6975780.stm

A Welland member has posted on uras that it was a wing-drop on a winch
launch. Perhaps it is worth noting that it's only a few weeks since
the AAIB published their investigation into fatal winch-launch last
year, when a pilot did not release in a timely manner when his wing
dropped, contary to the BGA Safe Winch Launching advice.


Dan


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Old September 3rd 07, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It seems it has been a rather fatal sunday. This is another accident
near Gap, France. Anyone has more info?
(sorry the link is in French)

http://www.orange.fr/bin/frame.cgi?u...72526.eiefi7vi

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Old September 4th 07, 02:58 AM
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This is terrible news, with another winch launching death in Australia on the weekend.

Condolances to all touched by these horrible events.

On another thread JJ Sinclair offered temporary sticks/supports for wings about to depart from outlanding alone.

Has anyone used such a temporary strut system for winching?

Hang glider pilots use dollies during ground roll, with few failures, can we change our ways with a bit of kit to keep the wing off the ground for the first 3 seconds?

bagger

PS

I have long been considering a flexible strut (think Falke) inbuilt to the winglet/trailing edge of new gliders (mainly SLMGs) to assist in lone take-offs.

This strut would rotate electrically with the landing gear actuation and although limited to the height of the winglet, would keep the tip well off the ground during landing and takeoff.
I offered the idea to Jonkers in full but got no reply- would anyone else like to run with it?
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Old September 4th 07, 10:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:58:34 +0100, bagmaker
wrote:


This is terrible news, with another winch launching death in Australia
on the weekend.

Condolances to all touched by these horrible events.

On another thread JJ Sinclair offered temporary sticks/supports for
wings about to depart from outlanding alone.

Has anyone used such a temporary strut system for winching?


Why not simply keep the left hand *very* close to the release handle
as suggested by standard operating procedure?




Bye
Andreas
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Old September 4th 07, 02:54 PM
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Simply, Andreas,

Some of these pilots are quite experienced, they would have known the procedures, I dont know if they observed them and its not for me to speculate.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, wings are dropping and crashes are occuring with terribly sad results.

I am just looking outside the box for a possible answer.

Bagger
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