Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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An ex- NYer, actually. Completed the sale of my NY home and will be
living
in New Hampshire full time soon.

Ya gotta love a state whose motto is "Live Free or Die"...

With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had religious
objections to the motto and taped over it on their own license plates. The
ACLU came to the rescue in Wooley v Maynard.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had religious
objections to the motto and taped over it on their own license plates.

What were the religious objections?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had
religious objections to the motto and taped over it on their own license
plates.

What were the religious objections?

I don't know. From a Constitutional standpoint, though, the only issue was
that they deeply disagreed with an idea that they were being forced by the
government to conspicuously advertise on their own cars; their reasons for
disagreeing were beside the point.

--Gary

Actually, it wasn't about religion.

It was just a bunch of left-wing hippie wacko's who claimed that New
Hampshire wasn't truly free, whatever that means.

The state took action based on laws banning defacing license plates.



"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had
religious objections to the motto and taped over it on their own
license
plates.

What were the religious objections?

I don't know. From a Constitutional standpoint, though, the only issue was
that they deeply disagreed with an idea that they were being forced by the
government to conspicuously advertise on their own cars; their reasons for
disagreeing were beside the point.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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I don't know. From a Constitutional standpoint, though, the only issue was
that they deeply disagreed with an idea that they were being forced by the
government to conspicuously advertise on their own cars; their reasons for
disagreeing were beside the point.


So why did you say they were religious objections?

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
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It was just a bunch of left-wing hippie wacko's who claimed that New
Hampshire wasn't truly free, whatever that means.


It means you're forced to do things you wouldn't otherwise do. How ironic
that most of the things forced on us are the products of left-wing wacko
politicians.

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
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Actually, it wasn't about religion.

It was just a bunch of left-wing hippie wacko's who claimed that New
Hampshire wasn't truly free, whatever that means.

No, you're just making that up, which is why you don't mention any source.

If you looked up the case I cited, you'd see that the defendent (there was
just one, not a "bunch") was a Jehovah's Witness whose objection to the
slogan was explicitly religious.

--Gary

The state took action based on laws banning defacing license plates.



"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had
religious objections to the motto and taped over it on their own
license
plates.

What were the religious objections?

I don't know. From a Constitutional standpoint, though, the only issue
was
that they deeply disagreed with an idea that they were being forced by
the
government to conspicuously advertise on their own cars; their reasons
for
disagreeing were beside the point.

--Gary

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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I don't know. From a Constitutional standpoint, though, the only issue
was that they deeply disagreed with an idea that they were being forced
by the government to conspicuously advertise on their own cars; their
reasons for disagreeing were beside the point.

So why did you say they were religious objections?

Because they were. It's a matter of record. Look up the case I cited.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Because they were. It's a matter of record. Look up the case I cited.


But you said their reasons for disagreeing were beside the point. Do you
know what your point is?

"With famous irony, New Hampshire used to imprison people who had
religious

objections to the motto and taped over it on their own license plates.
The

ACLU came to the rescue in Wooley v Maynard.

--Gary"

You have a good memory. The case revolved around the state's contention
that covering up a portion (people were using a strip of electrical tape)
of the license plate was illegal. I'm not sure how it was resolved.
Today, there are some who purchase licence plate holders that hide the
state motto. Not me of course - I removed the plate holder as soon as I
got my wheels into my garage. So its Live Free or Die on the back of my
car (with the anysoldier.com hat).

This leads to a question about airplanes. Its probably a stupid question,
but what the hell...
Old warbirds have names on the fuselage (I saw the Memphis Belle about a
month ago -- that was pretty cool). Why don't small private planes have
names on them?