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Diana 2 designers are sure to reach 52:1
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that Diana 2 is. Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due to Dollar/Euro exchange rate. The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005. More to read he http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html Regards, -- Janusz Kesik Poland ------------------------------------- See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography, The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today. http://www.wroclaw.dolny.slask.pl |
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"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that Diana 2 is. Diana 1 looks to me like a 2/3 scale open-class ship - and very elegant when the ugly giant wheel is stowed. Unfortunately, the cockpit also appears to be 2/3 scale and not an easy fit for normal (i.e. large) American pilots. It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design? Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you guys fit in the thing? Mike |
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Uzytkownik "Mike Stringfellow" napisal w wiadomosci
om... It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design? I have heard of two versions, just like the Ventus a and b. The best would be to ask the designer for details. Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you guys fit in the thing? Well... faith makes miracles? Regards, -- Janusz Kesik Poland ------------------------------------- See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography, The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today. http://www.wroclaw.dolny.slask.pl |
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Janusz,
thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde. Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a desirable racer. "Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ... The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that Diana 2 is. Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due to Dollar/Euro exchange rate. The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005. More to read he http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html Regards, |
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It is.
"Steve B" wrote in message ... Did I notice that the stick on the Diana was a joy stick on the right side of the cockpit or was I seeing things? On 10 Nov 2004 07:14:18 -0800, (Chris OCallaghan) wrote: Janusz, thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde. Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a desirable racer. "Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ... The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that Diana 2 is. Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due to Dollar/Euro exchange rate. The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005. More to read he http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html Regards, |
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Mike Stringfellow wrote:
Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you guys fit in the thing? As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of _wanting_ to fit") ;-) André who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders... |
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André Somers wrote in message ...
Mike Stringfellow wrote: Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you guys fit in the thing? As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of _wanting_ to fit") ;-) André who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders... Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider manufacturers. Another aspect of the Dianna to carefully checkout is who is qualified to repair the damn things once they break. The factory is EXTREMELY protective of any construction details -- as of the last convention there are no qualified repair depots in the U.S. Personally, I would defer any purchase of the glider until this glaring deficiency is rectified. Tom |
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Tom Seim wrote:
As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of _wanting_ to fit") ;-) Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider manufacturers. Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters, which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit. But, did you miss the smiley? André who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him -- My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- Ashleigh Brilliant |
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André Somers wrote in message ...
Tom Seim wrote: As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of _wanting_ to fit") ;-) Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider manufacturers. Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters, which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit. But, did you miss the smiley? André who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6 hours!), but you still have to close the canopy! Tom PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY in- YOU'LL BE SORRRY!!! |
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