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required readback on clearance
I flew to an FAA safety seminar tonight at Fullerton,CA KFUL.
Instrument communications. I was surprised at how little you need to read back. If your clearance is (I'm making this part up) Cessna 87077 cleared to Bakersfield, via Riverside standard DP, Paradise, dep Paradise on 270 radial, Victor 364, Pomona, as filed. Expect 10,000 ten minutes after departure, contact Socal on 135.4, squawk 4224. What would you be required to readback? Everything right? They said, "077 cleared Bakersfield, squawk 4334." Surprised me. |
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wrote in message ... I flew to an FAA safety seminar tonight at Fullerton,CA KFUL. Instrument communications. I was surprised at how little you need to read back. If your clearance is (I'm making this part up) Cessna 87077 cleared to Bakersfield, via Riverside standard DP, Paradise, dep Paradise on 270 radial, Victor 364, Pomona, as filed. Expect 10,000 ten minutes after departure, contact Socal on 135.4, squawk 4224. What would you be required to readback? Everything right? They said, "077 cleared Bakersfield, squawk 4334." Surprised me. Me too, in that you'd be using the wrong ident. |
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wrote in message ... I flew to an FAA safety seminar tonight at Fullerton,CA KFUL. Instrument communications. I was surprised at how little you need to read back. If your clearance is (I'm making this part up) Cessna 87077 cleared to Bakersfield, via Riverside standard DP, Paradise, dep Paradise on 270 radial, Victor 364, Pomona, as filed. Expect 10,000 ten minutes after departure, contact Socal on 135.4, squawk 4224. What would you be required to readback? Nothing. |
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Depends on the airport. Try that at my local airport
(PAO) and they'll tell you they want the whole clearance read back. OTOH read back any more than that at LAX and they'll chew you out. John wrote in message ... I flew to an FAA safety seminar tonight at Fullerton,CA KFUL. Instrument communications. I was surprised at how little you need to read back. If your clearance is (I'm making this part up) Cessna 87077 cleared to Bakersfield, via Riverside standard DP, Paradise, dep Paradise on 270 radial, Victor 364, Pomona, as filed. Expect 10,000 ten minutes after departure, contact Socal on 135.4, squawk 4224. What would you be required to readback? Everything right? They said, "077 cleared Bakersfield, squawk 4334." Surprised me. |
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edit-- 4224
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wrote in message ... That's what I'm thinking. Some ground controller (being trained in the tower, like Chino) is going to come right back and get in your face. There may very well be facility directives that require controllers to obtain readbacks of certain parts of an IFR clearance or instruction. But the question posed at the beginning of this thread was very general, and there simply is no general requirement to read anything back. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
news:nYm8b.847 There may very well be facility directives that require controllers to obtain readbacks of certain parts of an IFR clearance or instruction. But the question posed at the beginning of this thread was very general, and there simply is no general requirement to read anything back. That was informative if a bit egressive. Thanks. |
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"Maule Driver" wrote in message ... That was informative if a bit egressive. Thanks. You're welcome. What's "egressive"? |
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"Steven P. McNicoll"
"Maule Driver" That was informative if a bit egressive. Thanks. You're welcome. What's "egressive"? Sorry, I meant 'regressive' as in, "...But the question posed at the beginning of this thread was very general..." |
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"Dan Thompson" wrote in message
m... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... "Maule Driver" wrote in message ... That was informative if a bit egressive. Thanks. You're welcome. What's "egressive"? The opposite of "retentive"? Heh, that's the best neologism I've seen in awhile. --Gary |
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